Pakosti selviäisi pian

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CrazyDiamond28
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Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by CrazyDiamond28 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:44 pm

Hello,

I have encountered a confusing phrase: mies, jonka olemassaolo siis pakosti selviäisi pian.

What I don't understand is what kind of function does pakosti have in here? Is it some kind of täytyy?
Also, does selviäisi come from selviätä, meaning to survive?

Thank you in advice for any help!



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AldenG
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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by AldenG » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:18 am

CrazyDiamond28 wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:44 pm
Hello,

I have encountered a confusing phrase: mies, jonka olemassaolo siis pakosti selviäisi pian.

What I don't understand is what kind of function does pakosti have in here? Is it some kind of täytyy?
Also, does selviäisi come from selviätä, meaning to survive?

Thank you in advice for any help!
It's the adverbial -sti ending turning pakko into an adverb, and pakosti can be nicely translated here (if a bit literarily) as "of necessity," meaning because there is no alternative.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.

007
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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by 007 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:22 pm

Also, does selviäisi come from selviätä, meaning to survive?
selvitä + isi = selviäisi (becomes clearer, conditional sentence)
hmmmm... I just checked wiktionary and selvitä means becomes clearer, not clear
You always learn soemthing new. :D
“Go where you are celebrated – not tolerated."
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CrazyDiamond28
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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by CrazyDiamond28 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:24 pm

Thank you so much for helping me get the hang of this! I finally have a good picture of what the sentence is trying to convey! :D :D :D

Kiitokset!

Valinnan vapaus
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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by Valinnan vapaus » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 pm

007 wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:22 pm
Also, does selviäisi come from selviätä, meaning to survive?
selvitä + isi = selviäisi (becomes clearer, conditional sentence)
hmmmm... I just checked wiktionary and selvitä means becomes clearer, not clear
You always learn soemthing new. :D
You've failed at reading comprehension and/or attention span. If you're going to say something, don't say something that will confuse other learners.

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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by 007 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:04 pm

Valinnan vapaus wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 pm
You've failed at reading comprehension and/or attention span. If you're going to say something, don't say something that will confuse other learners.
please elaborate more. :ohno:
“Go where you are celebrated – not tolerated."
"Aina, kun opit uuden sanan, opettele samalla sen monikko!"

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Re: Pakosti selviäisi pian

Post by Valinnan vapaus » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:00 am

Go on the
007 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:04 pm
Valinnan vapaus wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 pm
You've failed at reading comprehension and/or attention span. If you're going to say something, don't say something that will confuse other learners.
please elaborate more. :ohno:
Go on the page you just described (wiktionary page for that word) and read the page carefully.


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