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Post by PeterF » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:36 am

I have been watching this media circus..
One www site has been closed because it mentioned the club...then someone added a players name.
The lawyers for the suspects are now upset that Aston Villa have denied that any of their players are involved therefore limiting the choice of suspect teams my elimination.
If you look at this link of the summary of todays newspaper in UK..
Check the two ring leader in the low interlect press ...
One claims that a Chelsea player was the lead player in the hotel party.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3160544.stm



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Post by Ace » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:42 am

Peter Floyd wrote:If you look at this link of the summary of todays newspaper in UK..
Check the two ring leader in the low interlect press ...
One claims that a Chelsea player was the lead player in the hotel party.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3160544.stm
The Star speculates that football fans may reveal who they believe to be involved by chanting the names from the terraces on Saturday afternoon.
I would say that is a certainty.
Peter Floyd wrote:The lawyers for the suspects are now upset that Aston Villa have denied that any of their players are involved therefore limiting the choice of suspect teams my elimination.
Villa didn't need to make a statement of their players innocence, the fixtures list clearly identifies the team involved.

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Post by ajdias » Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:53 pm

BBC wrote:The Star speculates that football fans may reveal who they believe to be involved by chanting the names from the terraces on Saturday afternoon.
I've beeen reading the articles and I wounder if everyone in Britain already knows who they are.. This story is now looking like the "Emperors new clothes", everone sees it, whispers the names, but nobody dares to shout who are the players involved... will saturday's audience be the child :?:
UCL trought the internet, 40 pounds per season?
Not really interested with my current connection (Welho 100 Kbps)...

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Post by Ace » Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:18 pm

ajdias wrote:everone sees it, whispers the names, but nobody dares to shout who are the players involved... will saturday's audience be the child :?:
Well historically people living under oppressive regimes around the world often only voiced their true opinions in football crowds. Fans in east Germany would often cheer for western German teams when they came to play Dynamo Berlin and others.

A football stadium is one of the last sanctuaries of free speech in some respects.

You know those little fish that swim around together in big groups so that the big fish can't single them out :wink:

This incident and also this one. Spring to mind, and the fans in the crowd certainly weren't quiet about them.

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Post by simon » Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:30 pm

The latest from the Sun

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003452762,00.html

at the bottom of the page in big letters IT WAS NOT US : Villa say

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Post by Ace » Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:46 pm

Its not unheard of for a young player who is contracted to one club, be released on loan to play for another though is it Simon?

I wonder if in a completely hypothetical situation like that the press would use the players original clubs name or the name of the club whom he is on loan to, when subtly describing him?

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Post by PeterF » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:08 pm

olly wrote:Its not unheard of.....that the press would use the players original clubs name or the name of the club whom he is on loan to, when subtly describing him?
It sells lots of newspaper without getting sued for libel...
Very unsubtle..in my book..everyone now knows..who was the guy who was invited to room 316.....the question he has to answer is..did he invite his mates to come and "have some too!".....or did they come uninvited...there is liitle doubt that they we all in the room....did they just give verbal encouragement or did they try to show him how and what to do!
No mater what...they are all pretty disgusting gang of Rsols..How can they run onto a football pitch again and expect any decent person to cheer them...unless the supporters would also cheer on the events in room 316.

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Post by Ace » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:20 pm

Of course I couldn't possibly comment, but it has been suggested, that its not completely impossible to rule out, that one of the alleged rapists may or may not have been accused of something not dissimilar in the past and another one of the accused may or may not have been on the recieving end of a great deal of press attention, for another incident, that he may or may not of been found guilty of. Who could possibly say though?

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Post by Slothrop » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:33 pm

Of course I couldn't possibly comment, but it has been suggested, that its not completely impossible to rule out, that one of the alleged rapists may or may not have been accused of something not dissimilar in the past and another one of the accused may or may not have been on the recieving end of a great deal of press attention, for another incident, that he may or may not of been found guilty of. Who could possibly say though?

Would somebody PLEASE disentangle Olly from that awful knot he has manage to contort his body into with those semantic gyrations? The poor boy must be suffering terribly - he looks like someone in the advanced stages of a game of Twister.

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"Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available" (Benford's Law of Controversy)

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Post by Ace » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:35 pm

WLM wrote:Would somebody PLEASE disentangle Olly from that awful knot he has manage to contort his body into with those semantic gyrations? The poor boy must be suffering terribly - he looks like someone in the advanced stages of a game of Twister.
Im practising for my future political career WLM :wink:

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Post by Ace » Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:39 am

Good result for Simon there. Although they could be in trouble soon. Personally I think Curbishley and O Neil would be crazy to take it. Spurs seem to do better without a manager anyway.

expected result there for me.

Ingurland sweating on Owen now. One of the few games I would have liked Liverpool to win yesterday but no cigar.

Newcastle won too. After the Internationals and a UEFA cup match for the tool army. Its:

Sat Oct 18 2003
Barclaycard Premiership
Middlesbrough v Newcastle 15:00

Could be a cracker that :wink:

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Post by Ace » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:24 pm

Ah the News of the world Never shy of publishing a sordid tale :wink:

Roasting eh?

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Post by Slothrop » Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:15 pm

olly wrote:Ah the News of the world Never shy of publishing a sordid tale :wink:

Roasting eh?
"And so, m'lud, in conclusion, I can state candidly that my clients are overpaid, loutish, repugnant braggarts with IQs lower than the number they wear on their back and egos the size of Greenland, whose behaviour and moral standards would put a feral cat to shame and whom most right-thinking people would horsewhip within an inch of their lives without blinking an eye, but that the lads are not guilty of the charge brought against them, and were only having a bit of a laugh, like. You know, a bit of letting-off steam on the weekend, like.

And that m'lud, concludes the case for the defence."

Jesus, how low can a country go?

Nice save by Jussi Jääskeläinen on Sunday. Now THAT was justice.
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Post by ajdias » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:01 am

olly wrote:Well historically people living under oppressive regimes around the world often only voiced their true opinions in football crowds. Fans in east Germany would often cheer for western German teams when they came to play Dynamo Berlin and others.

A football stadium is one of the last sanctuaries of free speech in some respects.

You know those little fish that swim around together in big groups so that the big fish can't single them out :wink:
And who's being opressed here, Olly? (Apparently) the girl was, but no longer is. the players.. do you trust justice :?: For the moment they are only being investigated and if the true is more like what is published on the News of the world they did nothing wrong.. othr than despicable, indecent, filthy, obscene, depraved, immoral, outrageous, shameful, debauched, sinful, ruthless, disgusting and abject behaviour. But, of course, this is only my opinion :D
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Post by Ace » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:09 am

ajdias wrote:And who's being opressed here, Olly?
The public of course. They're being opressed by not being able to write what they like without the threat of libel. In a crowd of 10,000 you can collectively say what you like.
ajdias wrote:and if the true is more like what is published on the News of the world
I doubt the truth has ever been published in the News of the world :wink: They're veterans of calculating the threat of libel cases against the sales of newspapers though :!:


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