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[finlandfin]

My girl friend is british and i am from india.i know her since 1 year .we want to live in finland.currently ia m student in finland .shes 16 years old.if we get married is there any chance we can settle in finland.we love finland loads.

[cressers]

16? Not sure of the legality, think you need to be 18 to get permit without adult permission, but this is only speculation.

[finlandfin]

tHANKS ALOT.DOES HER MUM AND DAD NEEDS TO BE THERE. I WILL GRADUATE ON JUNE AND I WILL GET VISA FOR 6 MORE MONTH.AFTER THAT CAQN I STAY WITH HERE STILL IN FINLAND

[EP]

16-year-old cannot marry in Finland, she is considered a child in that respect. I don´t know how that is in the UK.

[sinikettu]

16-year-old cannot marry in Finland, she is considered a child in that respect. I don´t know how that is in the UK.

In UK...
The law is
Minimum Age

The minimum legal age for getting married is 16 years old. In England and Wales the written consent of the parents or Guardians is required for persons who have not reached 18 years old and have not been previously married. If either of the persons is below 18 a birth certificate must be produced. It is preferred that all persons produce such evidence.


If you are married to an EU citizen...you can of course reside with her wherever in the EU she is an "official resident"..
Whether the UVI in Finland would grant her residents permit is another subject.
She would have to go through the same process as all other EU citizens ..e.g. Find Work or otherwise convince the UVI that she should be given a residents permit. She can reside here without a permit...but my guess is that would not get you a visa/permit to reside here.

[Finnmom]

Why don't you wait until she grows up? She is a teenager for goodness sakes.

[allan]

in scotland minimum age is 16.....but l suspect theres a good reason for very few weddings involving 16 year olds.

[rinso]

To settle in Finland, you need money.
For money you need a job.
For a job you need to speak Finnish (and a lot of luck)
There are no hand-out for people "wanting"
So best thing to do is start studying Finnish. And by the time you (and she) can speak the language she will be 18+ and you will have less obstacles for a marriage.
Then the difficult part (hunting for a job) starts.

[Pavlor]

I say let them live their dream.

Just cos you lot are a load of old bitter cynics doesn't mean you have to dash their hopes and dreams.

Get married and then you have the right to live in Finland. It may be hard to find a job, but not impossible. As you are already here, try looking for a job now, whatever it is. There are loads of foreigners here in Finland who don't speak Finnish and thrive very well. If you live in a Swedish-speaking area, it will be easier for you, but you'll do just fine in English, I am sure.

I came here with nothing but hopes and dreams. Now I am firmly established making lots of money and enjoying life. I am not cynical, nor am I bitter, so Finlandfin and bride: I wish you every success in your new life here in Finland!

[Hank W.]

Yeah, well, Pavlor, the bloke is probably 20+ Now I don't know of your stance of cradle-robbing, but banging a 16-year old is a criminal offence in Finland for dirty old men.

And there is no automatic "right to live in Finland" either.

[Pavlor]

Yeah, well, Pavlor, the bloke is probably 20+ Now I don't know of your stance of cradle-robbing, but banging a 16-year old is a criminal offence in Finland for dirty old men.

And there is no automatic "right to live in Finland" either.

Hardly a case of craddle-robbing Hank.

You have absolutely NO right to be saying this as you don't even KNOW the guy or his situation.

But as usual, everyone here is ready to pass judgement without knowing all the facts. *YawN*

If he marries his sweetheart then he and his bride can live here.

Good on 'em!

[Hank W.]

Firstly - I have every right to say whatever I want in my native country.

Judgementwise - In Finland we call an adult person with a 16-year old a "pedophile" and put them in jail. I could not care less what the law in UK or India is.

Situationwise - He would probably not want to know me as where I come from guys in a situation like that get their nads tarred...

The fact is child-marriages are illegal in Finland, one needs a presidential dispensation to marry at 16, and even then the age is for both parties being in their teens.

And another fact is there is still no automatic "right to reside" in Finland.

[Pavlor]

Firstly - I have every right to say whatever I want in my native country.

Judgementwise - In Finland we call an adult person with a 16-year old a "pedophile" and put them in jail. I could not care less what the law in UK or India is.

Situationwise - He would probably not want to know me as where I come from guys in a situation like that get their nads tarred...

The fact is child-marriages are illegal in Finland, one needs a presidential dispensation to marry at 16, and even then the age is for both parties being in their teens.

And another fact is there is still no automatic "right to reside" in Finland.

Personally, I care very little what you have to say about the situation, Hank, and hopefully nor will Finlandfin. And try not to play the "native" trump card - this is a virtual world about Finland and what you say is not in your native country: it is on the Internet. Clearly these two worlds for you become fuzzy at times...

Situationwise - He would probably not want to know me as where I come from guys in a situation like that get their nads tarred...

Not the only reason not wanting to know you I should imagine...

And another fact is there is still no automatic "right to reside" in Finland.

As EU citizens, there is. As members of the EU, we are all in this together...

Still, this argument as such has raised an interesting question: if someone gets married at 16 in the UK, is the marriage valid here in Finland?

[Hank W.]

And try not to play the "native" trump card - this is a virtual world about Finland and what you say is not in your native country: it is on the Internet.

So in the internet I can say whatever I please anyways. And personally, I care very little of opinions of me.

And another fact is there is still no automatic "right to reside" in Finland.

As EU citizens, there is. As members of the EU, we are all in this together.

No there is not. A country still has the right to decide how and who can become a resident. And if the guy is from India that was non-EU the last time I checked.

Still, this argument as such has raised an interesting question: if someone gets married at 16 in the UK, is the marriage valid here in Finland?

By all probability it is, but Finnish residents cannot go and marry as underaged persons in some other country. Now the question is if the person resident in Finland goes to UK to marry as the person in the UK cannot come to Finland to marry (without the dispensation, its from the Ministry of Justice BTW, used to be the prez in Kekkoslovakian times), is this in other words circumventing national legislation. If both the people were resident in the UK, then it would probably fall under the articles.

[littlefrank]

'but l suspect theres a good reason for very few weddings involving 16 year olds.'

They all run off to Gretna and end up watching the local footie team instead..


I'm not getting into a debate about ages, but this gave me a chance to find an old Ska song on youtube.


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