What is with this forum?!!!!!

[debonaire]

why don't you understand that most people who come here have either a work permit or someone close to help them out in the intitial phase...Its not llike a guy wakes up one morning and decides to move to finland in pursuit of happiness..Do you really think someone does that??...

Dudette!!! Tell that to the people who come here "in love" and ask for that question here over and over again...and idiots like you keep telling them to work on their fantasies..and to get a work permit...How stupid can you be to realize that quite a bit of the population moves here without the basics ( money saved, Finnish language) based on love and happiness and then ask the question about work and living here..

as for me,being an Indian,i passed out from IIT,Kanpur with mechanical engineering...needless to say that you are aware IITS are the best in India for engineering.

Says who..that was the outdated notion that it was the best.... and so you "passed out" instead of graduated to become what? I dont give a rat's a¤¤ that you graduated from IIT or where ever...

You are being so ungrateful to finland despite being aware of the ground realities in india...no wonder that you don't want to go back and carry on moaning and bitching about the system here...I am sorry to say but usually some idiotic Indians like you are notorious for their bitching...to simply put the words into your
@#$% blackhole...don't forget your roots and at the same time,strive to represent your country abroad in the best possible manner by letting go your bitching attitude...

F*CK your theory about ungratefulness as my tax money is fueling immigrants to study here and get their free dole too...so I have the right as any Finn to talk about the system. but I aint the one b*tchin about it..

I got my way payed here and found work before moving in here though I could ve easily done it..like most others: come here and then start lookin for work..
Now which part of your pea size brain didnt realize that I consider myself to be permenantly living in Finland even though I was born an Indian...Unlike your attitude =>"Since I am Indian..I would like to live like one and have my mini India whereever I move to and that the society there dont have a right to critize the way I like my mini India to BE"...

I dont want a mini India to be wherever I emigrate to...If that was the case, I wouldnt have left India in the first place. So pea brains realize that Though I am Indian by birth, I am a Finn by attitude and thats what makes ME PROUD instead of a twat likeyou who comes in to Rob Finland of its resources.

What the @#$% are you even talking about cocksucker???Can you just focus your mind to stay on the topic instead on straying away like a street dog...Stop barking...

Nobody is talking about starting a mini India...But atleast I am proud of being an INDIAN,unlike you...You are such an ungrateful son of a bitch that you don't care a damn about your native country and not even Finland...true,you are a finn by attitude since it sucks...as you guys have said it yourself...Dude,why don't you put the words in your arse before u chart it out...You are just one whining bastard who can't help himself...

I am proud the way I am...atleast i don't have an identity crisis..I havent forgotton my roots no natter whichever part of the globe I am...I was born an Indian and will remain one till I die and will strive at the best of my abilities to contribute positively to whichever country I am serving instead of bitching and moaning about it......You aint an Indian neither a finn...maybe finn by attitude but that doesn't help your cause...you are just like a street dog littering around in finland...you know you will be one of the double face bastards who would go running to mama(India) in crisis

Are you a martian or what? Every Indian in the world knows very well that IIT,K is the best in India for engineering...Generally assholes like you who couldn't make it to IIT and only dreamt about it are bitching about its brand value...

And its not my job to advise people on immigrating here...I don't think people are idiotic like you to move here without any concrete plans or any foundation... as for people who move here in "love",they have the power of love by their side to overcome these minor glitches of life...Ofcorse,i don't expect a loser like you to know anything about love...Man,you are just too good at bitching and whining!!!....Thats the purpose of your life and you are doing this quite efficiently...Keep moaning bitch...thats what you are meant for.

I have been narrating my experiences of living here which has so far been pleasant and i don't find any issue to worth bitching,be it high taxes for that matter...Can't help if you have been having a horrible time here...I can't help but pity the miserable and pathetic life you are leading, devoid of any pleasure and full of issues to complain about...So, "Indian Born Confused Finn", GET A LIFE!!!!!

[sinikala]

Good grief, your language is atrocious.

I'm not trying to be a mod, but you wouldn't I hope, use such language in the street... please don't use it here. You are both spoiling an otherwise good debate which will soon result in a locked thread.

[debonaire]

Good grief, your language is atrocious.

I'm not trying to be a mod, but you wouldn't I hope, use such language in the street... please don't use it here. You are both spoiling an otherwise good debate which will soon result in a locked thread.

I don't resort to such language unless i am subjected to it...Maybe you should go through the posts which I have been receiving...I am in favor of a good debate minus the provocative language....So Kindly do not accuse me of using such language as i did't start it...
I am no Gandhian...If i am subjected to abusive language,I would return the favor with full force rather than offering my other cheek to get slapped on...But then again,I would like to see this debate move forward with the respect it deserves instead of people making it a personal issue...

[EP]

Ofcorse,i don't expect a loser like you to know anything about love..

I don´t know. I have had an impression that RaamV is quite happily married and has two children.

[raamv]

I don´t know. I have had an impression that RaamV is quite happily married and has two children.

Spot on EP!! I dont think that this guy deserves any more explanation..

[debonaire]

Take your excuses away. You turned the thread into a filth-fest.

Finally you took notice of it...You should have voiced your concern when it started actually much earlier...I am not justifying my actions but before you point fingures,do your homework properly instead of jumping onto conclusions...
There have been many people,including me, who have raised this concern long before that many honorable members of this forum resort to atrocious language when their views are challenged...

[mCowboy]

for someone named debonaire, you don't act really debonaire....

[debonaire]

for someone named debonaire, you don't act really debonaire....

WELL i do act that way unless I am subjected to a personal attack...How come you guys come to take notice of it when its reached the boiling point...Where were you when it actually started?You didn't think it was necessay to raise your concern when one of your friends is using such language and then you expect the receiver to take it tamely? Taking sides is very easy but you need to have an unbiased judgment to prevent these incidents from happening again

[Hank W.]

[debonaire]

WELL i do act that way unless I am subjected to a personal attack

Take your excuses away. Nobody held a gun to your head and made you be a filthy pig.

Again I am not giving any excuses....I did what I seemed a suitable and fitting reply to another filthy post...I don't need your permission nor do i need to give an explanation to you for my actions....I am only pointing out the root cause but probably you are blind to notice that...

[debonaire]

WELL i do act that way unless I am subjected to a personal attack

Take your excuses away. Nobody held a gun to your head and made you be a filthy pig.

May i need to remind you that I was the one who pointed out to you that certain people are using provactive language but then you chose to be quiet on the whole issue and now you are assuming the role of a cultural cop on this forum...Stop being a hypocrite.

We don't agree with each others' views on various topics but you don't need to vent out your frustations on me, and certainly you don't have a license to clobber my head without looking into the cause...

[rinso]

When I have a quick look at the topic, I get the feeling that you are the trash talker here debonaire. When people attack your opinion, you start to defend yourself not with better arguments, but with a personal attack. Not a good way to gain respect here.

[sinikala]

Good grief, your language is atrocious.

I'm not trying to be a mod, but you wouldn't I hope, use such language in the street... please don't use it here. You are both spoiling an otherwise good debate which will soon result in a locked thread.

I don't resort to such language unless i am subjected to it...Maybe you should go through the posts which I have been receiving...I am in favor of a good debate minus the provocative language....So Kindly do not accuse me of using such language as i did't start it...

I'm not accusing you of anything. You used disgraceful language, you are not the only one, even if someone else did use bad language first (I don't know if that was the case), that still does not excuse you.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Whoever resorts to foul language, it just means they immediately lose respect of the other readers and it demonstrates the limitations of their vocabulary.

You sir, are an idiot.

[debonaire]

Good grief, your language is atrocious.

I'm not trying to be a mod, but you wouldn't I hope, use such language in the street... please don't use it here. You are both spoiling an otherwise good debate which will soon result in a locked thread.

I don't resort to such language unless i am subjected to it...Maybe you should go through the posts which I have been receiving...I am in favor of a good debate minus the provocative language....So Kindly do not accuse me of using such language as i did't start it...

I'm not accusing you of anything. You used disgraceful language, you are not the only one, even if someone else did use bad language first (I don't know if that was the case), that still does not excuse you.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Whoever resorts to foul language, it just means they immediately lose respect of the other readers and it demonstrates the limitations of their vocabulary.

You sir, are an idiot.

My mistake....Atleast it opens up the eyes of other readers to what actually been going on and may prevent such ugly incidents from happening again if other such idiots also learn to respect others' opinions and avoid using atrocious language...
I should have realised when a dog bites you,you don't bite the dog back...I assure you it won't happen from my end if other such idiots learn to control their language too, and don't get personal...

[debonaire]

When I have a quick look at the topic, I get the feeling that you are the trash talker here debonaire. When people attack your opinion, you start to defend yourself not with better arguments, but with a personal attack. Not a good way to gain respect here.

Firstly,what may sound trash to you may mean meanigful to many others...So you have no authority to dismiss my opinions as trashtalk just because i do not approve of the disappointing and discouraging views on living in Finland as expressed by some people....and by no means their opinions can be classified as being realistic...It just doesn't happen that way...People need to control the tone of their language and weed out the advise "Immigrants not wanted here"...It is disgusting and ironic to find out that a forum designed to help immigrants is hell bent on shunning them out of Finland...People sitting in far away places like Australia,who have no practical experience of living in Finland, are warning others of the consequences of living in Finland...

Secondly;I am not here on this forum to gain respect,especially from members who are continuously engaged in "Finland Bashing"...I believe in giving frank and true opinions,not just by going with the rest of the pack...If you do not have anything constructive to add here,then just be quiet and stop dismissing what others have to say...Those guys who keep on crooning about life here don't even deserve to live here...How you can find substance in their arguments fails to amaze me...

Thirdly,I have always defended my stand in a dignified manner until the situation got personal...What you reap is what you sow...Tit for Tat and i find nothing wrong with it .