I refer to few books and all of them tell different thing :
From the book, it stated :
d g h j k l m n p s t r v (13)
What about
kk pp tt ll mm nn rr ss nk ng ? Are these consonants too ?
and
consonants b c f w x z appear only in words of foreign origin.
What about q ?
When I checked the dictionary, there is q for 2 foreign words only but totally no words for w ?
question about consonants ?
Re: question about consonants ?
[Disclaimer: I am a non-Finn. Correct any mistakes I make here.]jackieng wrote: kk pp tt ll mm nn rr ss nk ng ? Are these consonants too ?
They consist of consonants. Well, except 'ng', which is one consonant, the 'ng' sound in 'ring', rather than two distinct 'n' and 'g' sounds.
The groups you mentioned have on thing in common. That is, they are either clusters that are subject to consonant gradation, or the result of consonant gradation.
'watti' (Watt) has a 'w'.jackieng wrote: consonants b c f w x z appear only in words of foreign origin.
What about q ?
When I checked the dictionary, there is q for 2 foreign words only but totally no words for w ?
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Re: question about consonants ?
This question (and thread) would be better placed in Kielikoulu.jackieng wrote:I refer to few books and all of them tell different thing :
From the book, it stated :
d g h j k l m n p s t r v (13)
What about
kk pp tt ll mm nn rr ss nk ng ? Are these consonants too ?
and
consonants b c f w x z appear only in words of foreign origin.
What about q ?
When I checked the dictionary, there is q for 2 foreign words only but totally no words for w ?
k, p, and t are so-called stop consonants. (I.e., as Wikipedia puts it, they’re produced by stopping the airflow in the vocal tract).
kk, pp, and tt are their geminated variants, where the stop (or “hold”) phase is longer.
Likewise, ll, mm, nn, rr, and ss are geminated variants of l, m, n, r, and s – you simply keep producing the same consonant sound for a longer duration.
If this document is to be believed, there are 16 consonant phonemes in Finnish. (18 if you count [ʔ] and [ʃ], as they do here.)
nk = [ŋk]
ng = [ŋŋ]
There is no standard “Finnish” pronunciation for q. Most people would probably pronounce it as a k or as a kv cluster, but some might even use a g, just to be on the safe side – you never know with these “foreign letters”!
The standard “alphabet song pronunciation” for the letter Q is “kuu”.
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