Help please

[Idefix]

Yes, the word is genast.. So if they do not want the 6 months "waiting period" but immediate divorce.

What it means is that if there is a waiting period, which there is unless the couple have been living separeted during the last two years, the court has to give them the wait of 6 months. There can not be an immediate divorce if the couple is living together.

[Hank W.]

Exactly - unless theres the few mitigating situations of the marriage having been unlawful to start with.

So you can't get an immediate divorce/annullment just because you were drunk and stupid - but you get one after submitting two petitions, one to start the 6 months "thinking time" and the other within a year of the start of the "thinking time". So generally a divorce proceeding takes the quickest about 7 months even if you were married just for a day. Then again on the flipside, getting a divorce doesn't usually take much longer than the 7 months... if a person wants to drag it they might a few months but the divorce is more of a "right" so you can say whatever but if the other party wants it there is no stipulation in the law not to grant the divorce.

[Idefix]

if a person wants to drag it they might a few months but the divorce is more of a "right" so you can say whatever but if the other party wants it there is no stipulation in the law not to grant the divorce.

Ok. Then let me ask this - with a baby not yet born, a few months delay can mean divorce after the baby is born instead of before it is born. Are there any significant legal differences for an immigrant father (as far as you know) between the two situations? (More than he can add some time to his immigrant status as still being in the country as married...)

Emotionally I can see a benefit of the delay, because the mother have a chance to maybe change her mind when her baby actually is "real" so to speak. Hormones of pregnant women, they say , can play a hugh role sometimes in their behaviors and feelings.

[Hank W.]

Well, a child born to a married couple, the man is automatically the father even the concieving was done by the holy ghost. A baby born to an unmarried woman, well, the mother can always claim it was the holy ghost.

Legally speaking, the father is not a "father" until after the baby is born (in wedlock) or born and the paternity confirmed (out of wedlock). The county though is quite keen to find a father as they don't want to end up paying the child support.

[espooman]

i read what you write hank , really it s so important , but i need more informations about my situation , Do i have right to live in Finland next to my child or not ?
i m so worry about the baby , and as you know all , baby need mother and father too , no ??

i really don tknow what to do , but it will be nice that i hear something from you .


Thank you

[Idefix]

It sounds to me that if you are still married when the baby is born, you are the childs care taker together with the mother. Then you can apply/change your visa etc on basis of family ties. If you get divorced before the baby is born, the info I can find is not very clear at all. If I were you I would contact an immigration lawer.

"Om barnets föräldrar är gifta med varandra när barnet föds är de tillsammans barnets vårdnadshavare. Om barnets moder inte är gift är hon ensam barnets vårdnadshavare. Även efter att faderskapet är fastställt är modern ensam vårdnadshavare för barnet, om föräldrarna inte kommer överens om annat eller en domstol vid behov beslutar om vårdnaden om barnet."
http://www.om.fi/sv/Etusivu/Julkaisut/E ... psenhuolto

"Om den person som är bosatt i Finland är ett minderårigt barn (under 18 år), är hans eller hennes vårdnadshavare en familjemedlem. Vanligen är fadern eller modern eller vardera vårdnadshavare. I undantagsfall kan någon annan vara vårdnadshavare, till exempel barnets far- eller morföräldrar eller någon annan nära släkting. Också dessa kan söka uppehållstillstånd i Finland på grund av familjeband. "
http://www.uvi.fi/netcomm/content.asp?p ... anguage=SV

[espooman]

hi
the baby is going to born before i get divorce , so i m father then , now i want to know
do i have right to stay in finland or not ?
do i have roght to see my child or not ?

any advice please i will appreciate ... thank you .

[raamv]

So why are you repeating your question over and over again after many of them have told you your rights!!
Read the answers and try to understand them. if not, talk to a social service worker in your county/city to explain your rights..
unless you are here illegally, you dont have to fear deportation !!

[mCowboy]

any advice please i will appreciate ... thank you .