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rigama
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Job agencies?

Post by rigama » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:42 pm

Hi,

I am right now in Finland and I am in search for an English based (office administrative, data processing, back office,etc) job in Finland and would also require the Employer to sponsor my visa work permit.I am quite experienced in it.
I have already posted my resume in monster and applied for a few jobs..But there is no result! :x
Is there any job agent who can help me. Please let me know if there is anyinformation that can help me with my job hunt...

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AlexInHelsinki
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Re: Job agencies?

Post by AlexInHelsinki » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:02 pm

Maybe my CV is crap, but I've never had any luck with posting resumes on databases (Monster, Finland's unemployment agency, LinkedIn or otherwise). I went to StaffPoint a few weeks ago and they were TOTALLY unhelpful. Besides having stuff you don't necessarily need a degree (how can something that cost over $200K be so worthless???) to do (factory work? cleaning? hospitality?), they were super rude. I don't buy the rude Finnish thing, 'cause I've met mostly really friendly natives.

Then I got an email from them saying they didn't have anything available, written in the worst English I've ever seen. It was almost illegible. I wrote them back saying perhaps they could use an English proofreader for their rejection letters. Couldn't help myself; they were asking for it. Needless to say, I didn't get a job out of it. :lol:

Anyway, I wouldn't recommend StaffPoint.

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by Pursuivant » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:25 pm

rigama wrote: I am in search for an English based (office administrative, data processing, back office,etc) job in Finland and would also require the Employer to sponsor my visa work permit.
and what exactly is the education/experience/skill which makes you employable to do any English based office administrative, data processing, back office,etc job where there is nobody available nor qualified in Finland nor the whole EU for the employer to go through the work permit process, considering theres a whole lot of English-speakers bobbing about town to do any office administrative, data processing, back office,etc job who could start immediately without any extra paperwork... only they don't speak Finnish which is usually required for any office administrative, data processing, back office,etc job so they don't even get the time of day...

so you need to bring forth your strong points instead of having an illusion there was some kind of lack of ei-puhu office workers... like Alex there has a skill of proofreading... so do you have some rarer language, knowlege of databases, stenography skills etc?

oh yeah, those temp agencies are crap.
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Re: Job agencies?

Post by AlexInHelsinki » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:50 pm

Oh. Sponsorship. Yeah. Didn't see that (key) part of the post.

Nevermind my post. Skip to Hank's. He's got it right, aaaaas usual.

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:04 am

well cold hard facts and calculating odds as if they were horses is not what people want to hear, so its better to read your post first so there is even an illusion of positivity... and then call me names and press the ignore button and the usual... how is the jobhunting? peaches and cream? peaches all fuzzy green and cream clumpy? the GHA seems to have a few openings... though unless you spent that 200K on IT and engineering you ought to have invested in a suggestopedic Finnish prolespeak course instead...

... unless you have a PhD in metabolomics, then you might have just struck it.... though some jobs are not for treehuggers... the Big N seems to have a number of vacancies in the accountings departments... a few interesting assistant positions and of course those eternal marketing sc... err... jobs.
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Re: Job agencies?

Post by AlexInHelsinki » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:42 am

Aaaaactually, I got a job about 5 seconds after walking into a place the other week. Can't really go into details, but I'm continuing the hunt. I can think of more brutal occupations that have lousier pay than what I got hired for, but not off the top of my head.

Beggars can't be choosers, eh?

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by inkku » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:54 am

Job agencies are not customary in Finland. Usually the contact is directly between the job seeker and the employer.

You need personal connections (=preferably Finnish friends), many jobs are not advertised (requires too much money and time).

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by dorrtay » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:41 am

hahhahhahahahahhahahah, job agencies? I bet no one gets a job via this medium except you are recommended by an existing employee you get nothing out this job agencies, its a share waste of time visiting their office, site or calling them on phones.

I could remember filling out hundreds of forms and they are always promising to call but they don't. And each time I go back to them, they would ask me to fill another form, it sucks. :lol:

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by blaugrau » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:41 am

I'd recommend that you change your strategy -- i think it's highly unlikely that you'll find an English-based office job that doesn't also require fluent Finnish and that will be so extremely dependent on your input that they'd go through all the paperwork to sponsor you. My impression is that in 99% of cases, foreign language skills (=English) only unfold their worth when you can combine them with fluent skills in the native tongue (=Finnish). Even without the sponsorship-bit it would be hard, but in this specific constellation I'm rather pessimistic.

If you want to come and live in Finland for relationship reasons, you could try staying here via studying something (then of course the financial problem would still need to be solved, but you could look into scholarship programmes, or then there's a chance that with increasing Finnish skills you might be able to secure a manual part-time job like cleaning or newspaper delivery).

Another option would be a work-holiday visa -- the job hunt will in that case still be difficult, but at least the sponsorship thing would be gone (am I correct in this?), which means at least one complication less.

Generally, you have to prepare yourself that living and working in Finland will probably mean starting from scratch, i.e. changing your area of work, since the circumstances here are different.

There are job agencies in Finland, i.e. temp agencies like Staffpoint, but they are mainly geared towards manual jobs, at least that's my impression.

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Re: Job agencies?

Post by raamv » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:49 am

blaugrau wrote:I

Another option would be a work-holiday visa -- the job hunt will in that case still be difficult, but at least the sponsorship thing would be gone (am I correct in this?), which means at least one complication less.
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Re: Job agencies?

Post by rinso » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:55 am

blaugrau wrote:I

Another option would be a work-holiday visa -- the job hunt will in that case still be difficult, but at least the sponsorship thing would be gone (am I correct in this?), which means at least one complication less.
And if you get one, you have to leave at the end of it. No possibilities to change it into something else.
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Re: Job agencies?

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:59 am

theres been a few people that actually got a real job and managed to change theirs....
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