H1N1 vaccination

[irnbru]

Yes we know this but when's the last time you got seasonal flu? I can't ever remember having it. This "crap" will infect at least 1 in 3 people. When you have a baby under 6 months who can't be vaccinated and will most likely be hospitalized if they catch it, in a hospital that will be pushed to breaking point, because so many others are already there, it's somewhat of a concern.

No doubt you are a healthy adult with no kids who will beat this easily if you catch it.

exactly my point
It seems that my two eldest one (5 and 6 yo)can get it from the neuvola next week, as for my husband and myself, we have to wait. Since so many people don't want the vaccination, what about giving it to the one who wants it even though they're not in the risk groups? I'll sure be first on line, so that my baby would be protected.

It's a bit annoying that in other countries people looking after an infant younger than 6 months are in a risk group but here in Finland there is just no mention of it. If me and my wife catch swine flu we can probably avoid giving it to the baby by wearing masks around the home and washing our hands, but if my 3 year old catches it there is no way I can get him to wear a mask or not sneeze/cough near the baby.

[kay30]

The other really scary thing is all the misinformation that has been spread via the Internet and Facebook. I read about one guy trying to convince a whole lot of other people not to get it because his grandmother got inoculated in the 70's (when people thought the vaccine was linked to some unexplained deaths) and she died. 20 years later. And he was sure that the vaccine killed her. (Either that or old age.) That and the people who think the vaccine is part of some huge, global conspiracy for population control. Which would be quite odd considering most places need more people than they have.

I've also noticed the use of flunssa here for things like a runny nose. I tried explaining that it really does mean something different in English, to no avail. Same thing with calling cupcakes muffins. It's not a muffin, dammit, if it is made out of cake batter and has frosting! (OK, technically a muffin is a kind of cake but you know what I mean.)

[anttii]

So, when is vaccine to be in Helsinki for people not in risk groups? At HS page I read that one could queue for a while bu still get vaccination even not being in risk group.

[EP]

At HS page I read that one could queue for a while bu still get vaccination even not being in risk group.

Where does it say that? At least not in the paper paper. It says quite the opposite. They don´t have enough vaccine at least not now. The paper paper HS says that in Espoo there have been people queueing who are clearly over 64. They have been given the ordinary flu shot as consolation.

[Lisa 15]

Here you find the timetable:
http://www.hel.fi/wps/portal/Terveyskes ... #aikataulu

[annekmc]

I've also noticed the use of flunssa here for things like a runny nose. I tried explaining that it really does mean something different in English, to no avail. Same thing with calling cupcakes muffins. It's not a muffin, dammit, if it is made out of cake batter and has frosting! (OK, technically a muffin is a kind of cake but you know what I mean.)

Flunssa = the cold
Influenssa = the flu

[anttii]

At HS page I read that one could queue for a while bu still get vaccination even not being in risk group.

Where does it say that? At least not in the paper paper. It says quite the opposite. They don´t have enough vaccine at least not now. The paper paper HS says that in Espoo there have been people queueing who are clearly over 64. They have been given the ordinary flu shot as consolation.

This was in web HS in English, but you are right, it was about Espoo and elderly people

[AldenG]

I had the impression that nuha was a cold and flunssa was strictly speaking the flu but often used interchangeably for cold or flu.

So I checked that with Mrs. G last night. At first she agreed but then pointed out that nuha, although often used to mean a cold, strictly means only runny nose.

But when you think about it, most people in any language really aren't sure which one they have even when they conceptually understand the difference. Someone with a bad enough cold who hasn't had the real flu for a while may easily be convinced they have the flu.

[Lisa 15]

This is what I found on the French embassy web-site:
Les groupes de population prioritaires sont :

1. Les femmes enceintes, pendant toute la grossesse et jusqu’au 4e mois suivant l’accouchement ;
2. Les personnes de moins de 65 ans souffrant de longue maladie ou d’affections sévères réduisant leurs réponses immunitaires (maladie respiratoire ou cardiaque, insuffisance hépatique ou rénale, leucémie, sida, déficience neurologique ou neuromusculaire). Les personnes suivant un traitement post-transplantation, les cas sévères d’obésité sont inclues dans ce groupe ;
3. Les enfants de 6 mois à 35 mois ;
4. Les enfants et les jeunes gens de 3 à 24 ans ;
5. Les personnes de 65 ans et plus.

La déclinaison exacte du plan de vaccination, et notamment son calendrier, est disponible auprès du centre de santé dont vous dépendez, en fonction de votre lieu de résidence.

En dehors des heures d’ouverture des centres de santé (généralement, de 8h à 16h en semaine), vous pouvez appeler le (09) 100 23, le numéro d’appel du service de santé par téléphone en finnois, suédois et anglais.

Information mise à jour le jeudi 29 octobre 2009

Meaning that if you have a small baby, the mum is also on thefirst group to get the vaccination... I'll check withmy neuvola tomorrow

[irnbru]

Meaning that if you have a small baby, the mum is also on thefirst group to get the vaccination... I'll check withmy neuvola tomorrow

Let us know what they say.

[Lisa 15]

Just came back from the neuvola: my kids can be vaccinated already tomorrow (they're 4 1/2 and 6 y.o.)but nothing for me and my baby. She said that it is true that the baby would be protected while breastfeeding if I get the shot, but somehow, I won't get the shot before the governement take the decision whether to vaccinate the adults... so in any case not before December, and only if they make that decision.
I'm really not happy at all, there is no logic there in my opinion.

[irnbru]

Just came back from the neuvola: my kids can be vaccinated already tomorrow (they're 4 1/2 and 6 y.o.)but nothing for me and my baby. She said that it is true that the baby would be protected while breastfeeding if I get the shot, but somehow, I won't get the shot before the governement take the decision whether to vaccinate the adults... so in any case not before December, and only if they make that decision.
I'm really not happy at all, there is no logic there in my opinion.

Yep we are in the same boat. Except my 3 year old still can't yet be vaccinated as they haven't got round to that risk group in Helsinki yet.

[irnbru]

Got my 3 year old vaccinated against swine and seasonal flu today. Feel like I can breathe a sigh of relief now as he was probably the most likely to infect the baby.

Edit now I'm worried again as other countries are giving kids under 10 two vaccinations 21 days apart otherwise it's not so effective.

[mvgrogan]

Finally got the bub (7months) jabbed today - he got 1 in each arm... piggy & seasonal... delayed because of ear infection last week. He smiled throughout!

Daddy took him at the end of the day and there was 1 dose left, so the nurse offered it to him, so now hubby has also been piggy flu jabbed!

Toddler (nearly 4) should get hers next week.

[raamv]

Just remember to avoid external contact still
as the vaccines take 2 weeks to take Effect..