what's the best translation to the word courage in finnish?

[hbojane]

hello ,
i need a list of word that means courage in finnish?
ive heard a word but i don't know how to spell it !!here(in TopGear) : http://www.streetfire.net/video/178-top ... 200347.htm
please help

[kalmisto]

I did not watch the video so I do not know what word you mean but the most commonly used Finnish word for "courage" should be "rohkeus" and "courageous" is "rohkea" . See this ! :
http://www.eudict.com/?lang=engfin&word ... %20courage

[kalmisto]

Some synonyms for the word "rohkea" ( brave ) :
http://synonyymi.net/index.php?page=1267&kirjain=Rohkea

I would say that the words "pelkäämätön", "peloton", "urhea" and "uskalias" on that list come closest to "brave".
The corresponding nouns would be "pelkäämättömyys" ( fearlessness ), "pelottomuus" ( fearlessness ), "urheus" ( bravery ) and "uskaliaisuus" ( daring ).

"uskaliaisuus" in the dictionary :
http://eudict.com/?lang=fineng&word=usk ... &go=Search

[CH]

The word they use in the video is sisu. It's a specific type of courage (and some other stuff), so you cannot say that it would be the "best translation" for courage, that would be the previously mentioned rohkeus.

[Pursuivant]

Sisu is more like guts/perseverence/not-giving-up, maybe courage in tackling odds... man eats nails and craps chain

[AldenG]

The best American English translation of sisu I have seen is grit.

The best-known instance of using "grit" in that sense was in the title of John Wayne's 1964 movie True Grit. Interestingly, the Finnish distributors retitled the movie as Kova kuin kivi. Only Finns can have sisu, I guess.

[Rob A.]

A couple of more formal English terms which I think would capture the sense of sisu as I understand the Finnish term are:

"doggedness" and "tenacity"....

These two words imply nothing about the wisdom of the particular goal, just the intention of achieving it...and these words depending on the context can carry a slight derogatory sense. Correct me if I'm wrong...I think the word, "sisu", is like that. The English word, "courage", seems to typically be used when decribing facing big risks in the pursuit of a goal that would generally be perceived as "worthy" in a broader sense.....

Maybe a better title for the John Wayne movie might have been..."Ehta sisu"....OK, OK...don't laugh....I'm just guessing...

[Pursuivant]

Not bad translation, actually.

[AldenG]

Maybe a better title for the John Wayne movie might have been..."Ehta sisu"....OK, OK...don't laugh....I'm just guessing...

Interesting. Although I'm surprised at how few words I don't recognize from the Kotus sanalista, I've never seen ehta before -- not in Finnish, that is. So I'm wondering how you stumbled across a Finnish version of Swedish äkta. Maybe you got to it through German echt? Or is there something older and more proto-European than that, which only you philologists would know?

I think the original title would have been better as simply "Grit." And damned if I can figure out whether the Finnish ought to be in partitive or not. I would have thought so, but I wouldn't have put a high confidence value on it.

[Upphew]

Interesting. Although I'm surprised at how few words I don't recognize from the Kotus sanalista, I've never seen ehta before -- not in Finnish, that is. So I'm wondering how you stumbled across a Finnish version of Swedish äkta. Maybe you got to it through German echt? Or is there something older and more proto-European than that, which only you philologists would know?

Probably it has some relation to a belt made from genuiinin nahka

[hbojane]

Thank you All

[Mook]

but, hey, grit translates to guts/stamina/determination so i guess the uniqueness of sisu is just another myth

[Rob A.]

Maybe a better title for the John Wayne movie might have been..."Ehta sisu"....OK, OK...don't laugh....I'm just guessing...

Interesting. Although I'm surprised at how few words I don't recognize from the Kotus sanalista, I've never seen ehta before -- not in Finnish, that is. So I'm wondering how you stumbled across a Finnish version of Swedish äkta. Maybe you got to it through German echt? Or is there something older and more proto-European than that, which only you philologists would know?

I think the original title would have been better as simply "Grit." And damned if I can figure out whether the Finnish ought to be in partitive or not. I would have thought so, but I wouldn't have put a high confidence value on it.

Oh well ...nothing particularly arcane.... I just dug around a bit in wiktionary and out popped the word, ehta....and I thought that has a nice short, blunt, "Finnic" feel to it ...a four-letter word that goes well with the four-letter word, sisu.... But it was just a guess.... And I see declension of this word is optional...suggesting, at least on some level, it is borrowed ...I also saw the word, aito...apparently meaning, "bona fide"....but, rightly or wrongly, it looked to me like a bit an awkward fit with "sisu"...

I'm inclined to think a movie title such as this would be in the nominative rather than the partitive, for the simple reason that we are dealing with a subject.... but maybe there's another way to look at it...

Movie titles for foreign language films are often amusing....In the video store yesterday I noticed a Finnish DVD...."Frozen Land".....that's the English label given to the Louhimies film, Paha Maa ... Well, what the heck, the guy on the cover is wearing a pipo ....and it is set in Finland.....ice and snow and polar bears and penguins and all that....

[Mark I.]

Rohkeus.

[Mölkky-Fan]

The word they use in the video is sisu. It's a specific type of courage (and some other stuff), so you cannot say that it would be the "best translation" for courage, that would be the previously mentioned rohkeus.

The best English definition of a man with 'sisu' is 'not a sissy'