EU Blue Card vs Permanent Residence ?

[Upphew]

As the blue card is aimed at the people who will be earning "enough", the main benefit for them is that they can hop to other EU country and work there, whereas people with permanent RP need to get RP at the next country. For example do get EU BC in France you'll need to have at least 1,5 x the average salary: http://www.immigration-professionnelle. ... ntegration

edit: and Finnish terms: http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/content.asp ... anguage=EN

[Logic]

So unless the person applying for the new blue card is a CEO or a genius then its not going to help.

[Rip]

So unless the person applying for the new blue card is a CEO or a genius then its not going to help.

They hardly say that, although to be bit blunt the level is rather clearly higher than the expected average for those posting questions on student section...

[mdn]

the main benefit for them is that they can hop to other EU country and work there

No, they can not.
There is a probability that some EU country will allow such possibility, but seems there is no such country now (and will no be in future).
So currently the rules are the same - Blue Card owner from country A must apply for a local residence permit (or Blue Card if salary is good enough) to be able to move to country B.

[mdn]

Any idea about what are the main differences in the benefits between the holder of EU Blue Card and the holder of Permanent Residence ?

Holder of Blue Card is able to ask for Permanent Residence after 4 years (in Finland).

[Kutittaa]

Hi,

Any idea about what are the main differences in the benefits between the holder of EU Blue Card and the holder of Permanent Residence ?

Thanks !

Gotten fed up with everyone here already have you? Or was it the other way around...

[Upphew]

the main benefit for them is that they can hop to other EU country and work there

No, they can not.
There is a probability that some EU country will allow such possibility, but seems there is no such country now (and will no be in future).
So currently the rules are the same - Blue Card owner from country A must apply for a local residence permit (or Blue Card if salary is good enough) to be able to move to country B.

This is what you get when you don't read the sources from wikipedia
Wikipedia: "The Blue Card aka Blue European Labour Card is an approved EU-wide work permit (Council Directive 2009/50/EC)[1] allowing high-skilled non-EU citizens to work and live in any country within the European Union, excluding Denmark, Ireland and the United Kingdom, which are not subject to the proposal."

Eurlex: "Article 18
1. After eighteen months of legal residence in the first Member State as an EU Blue Card holder, the person concerned and his family members may move to a Member State other than the first Member State for the purpose of highly qualified employment under the conditions set out in this Article.

2. As soon as possible and no later than one month after entering the territory of the second Member State, the EU Blue Card holder and/or his employer shall present an application for an EU Blue Card to the competent authority of that Member State and present all the documents proving the fulfilment of the conditions set out in Article 5 for the second Member State. The second Member State may decide, in accordance with national law, not to allow the applicant to work until the positive decision on the application has been taken by its competent authority."

But you did too give wrong information: BC holder needs to apply for new BC, not RP. And I'm sure someone with more time in hand can prove that I didn't understand the directive.

[Kutittaa]

Define 'highly skilled' ?

Like highly skilled in the art of flaming/trolling on forums?

[mdn]

BC holder needs to apply for new BC, not RP

Just in case if he wants BC also on the new place.
For local RP it is possible to apply even without any RP/BC, and living somewhere outside of EU/EEA.

"The second Member State may decide, in accordance with national law, not to allow the applicant to work until the positive decision on the application has been taken by its competent authority" - as I understand general laws, it should be explicitly allowed to work without positive decision, as by default - it is prohibited.

So as BC owner is residing in his current country - he can apply for RP of other EU country and wait for a similar "positive decision", not for BC but for RP.

Define 'highly skilled' ?

Some post-school education (depends to the country) and salary at least 50% more than average at that country.
I have read that in Bulgaria it is about 540 euro per month (as average salary is about 360 euro per month).

[mdn]

http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/alkup/2011/20111338 - I do not see here that non-Finnish BlueCard owner will be able to work in Finland without "positive decision" on Finnish BlueCard.

Also interesting, more than 3 months unemployed means that BlueCard is automatically cancelled?..

[AldenG]

As the bee approaches the speed of light relative to an observer, its rings, normally almost straight, approach perfect circularity.

But its delicate wings tend to fall off.

[mdn]

I guess, it's the same thing than in Germany.

It is not.

For me, the EU Blue Card ist a step towards a permanent residence

Are you living in Germany?

[animist]

By the way, are Blue Card and residence permit options mutual exclusive? Can a person have both of them at the same time?

[Rip]

By the way, are Blue Card and residence permit options mutual exclusive? Can a person have both of them at the same time?

I'd guess so (I can imagine situations where you have one and the other would come possible and preferable) and I am not aware of rule that the other one would be cancelled if you gain the other.