Advice on company with english as professional language

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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by ritan7471 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 pm

I was lucky enough to find a job at the first company I interviewed with, in a field that some would say requires Finnish or you will never get a job (Payroll Accounting).
The main point for a job seeker with limited Finnish is to carefully research companies and prepare in your home country. I read and write Finnish fairly well, but still need the help of free translation online to understand everything. During the year before I came to Finland, I beefed up my accounting skills, took an online course in Finnish payroll calculation, and was lucky enough to work in international payroll (though no Finnish payroll), and luckily my work experience in the US as a payroll service client makes me a good payroll service provider.

I just want to say that it's not impossible for someone to come here on the basis of being in a relationship with a Finn and still find work relatively soon. I realize I was very lucky that my work experience meshed enough for a company to hire me after only 2 weeks in Finland, but I want others thinking of moving here to know it is not impossible.

However, it's very important to do your research and prepare as much as possible ahead of time for your move.



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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:05 am

Rosamunda wrote: Sounds like if you're a data security specialist, you have definite bargaining power!
Its been a "strong area" almost the whole of the 2000's even when the telecoms bubble burst. The skillset required is high though, and you need to be versatile. But for an aspiring student now trying to figure out his majors - networks is not a bad choice for a foundation.
Rick1 wrote:The only thing permanent in Finland is that you pay taxes. You can ask all these 'permanent' people in 'YT' negotiations at the moment. He was just lucky to be in the right field. Like in every country there are jobs for foreigners which locals do not want to do or a lack of qualified people.
Especially in IT you need to ask "can my job be outsourced" every other day. But as it shows, being too cheap backfires, just need to hope the management in their quarter capitalism rounds realises it.
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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by Upphew » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:56 am

Pursuivant wrote:Especially in IT you need to ask "can my job be outsourced" every other day. But as it shows, being too cheap backfires, just need to hope the management in their quarter capitalism rounds realises it.
They know cheaper is more expensive: http://www.3t.fi/artikkeli/uutiset/talo ... kalliimpaa
Does it matter? No. Outsourcing is the king even when it is more expensive and probably takes longer.
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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:00 pm

Prime example of this is the plans to establish a new "Government IT Company".... when I started my career in computing in 1999, I joined up what was the privatised "Government Computer Centre". The privatisations in the 1990's really "paid off" (to some politicians), but in fact Finland lost infrastructure and business that could actually have been profitable.
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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by eggonlegs » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:19 pm

Thanks to the op for posting an update.

Really great to hear a success story and some useful links too.

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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by kwx » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:47 pm

After some private message asking for the "list" of company, I tried to find back the link, but unfortunatly I couldn't.
But you can go directly to technopolis and write the name of all the company ( or ask (or call if you ŕe lazzy hihi) at the secretary if she has a list).
Then I remember that I had to go all the time on the website of the company, find the "contact" options, and send the mail. It's very exhausting, but you can't have everything without some pain.

About all my interviews, they weren't only for "network administrator". I wonder now if I had more than 5 interviews about it.

no no no no no. I wanted a job, whatever, I could (and still can if needed :D) awake at 5am to prepare coffee for a company... the point is to have a job (be somewhere else than your flat, meet people, have money, ...)
Most of the interviews were about sales (having a French native speaker open the door of the French / Belgium / Half of African market [you can use that as argument by the way, work with French, Spanish,... remember your history class about colony :D ]), so sales, hotline, coding, webdesigner,...

My problem at the beginning was to be exigent and (too) proud. But, after going to the "mol" center (joobseeker center in FInland), the "coach" (I like to call him like that) open my eyes like, you can do a lot of things, you want a job, seek a specific job in 10 years, now it s time for having some experience and discover Finland and FInnish people....

Remember that there is a difference between beeing desesperate (pray for a job) and ask for a job that you may be able to do (the manager / hr will be there to tell you if you can't do it).

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Re: Advice on company with english as professional language

Post by cors187 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:26 pm

you can do a lot of things, you want a job, seek a specific job in 10 years, now it s time for having some experience and discover Finland and Finnish people....
now it s time for having some experience and discover Finland and Finnish people
3 months later, some pasta and mince meat!
you can do a lot of things
did he mention any?


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