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[vagrant]

but since i am in Finland my spouse cannot travel alone to a neighbouring country's Finnish embassy.

Clear case to apply for asylum
or did I get it wrong?

[umairfinland]

wrong.
There is no need to apply for asylum when the applicant and myself can qualify for a residence permit. Asylum are claimed by people whose home countries are suffering with civil war etc in most cases.

embassy threw the application in the rubbish bin thinking there will never be a follow up. It was only processed until two weeks when we contacted for a followup they woke up to the fact that someone had applied for visa, a decision was made based on a lost file with two days, refusal letter was delayed for 10 days. Violation of EU visa code 2009 and refusal reasons as per ANNEX VI witheld for 10 days without reason. They admitted losing the file/part of supporting doc but did not tell at what point it went missing. At different times we were being given three different types of info, it was a big mixup.

if we appeal, can it succeed? how long it takes? does it matter that they advised us to apply for RP family ties, but still we appeal their decision and request for short term visa?

[vagrant]

I am sorry I can not answer you.
Appeal is free , that is all I know.
Is it true that married woman cannot travel abroad alone?

[umairfinland]

Is it true that married woman cannot travel abroad alone?

what do you exactly mean by that question? it is upto married women her self, if she wish she can travel alone. If not, she may choose not to travel. I think it varies from case to case. some married women may or may not travel abroad alone. it depends i guess.

[vagrant]

As with filing the residence permit, certainly i can go the longer route (1 yr processing time) but since i am in Finland my spouse cannot travel alone to a neighbouring country's Finnish embassy.

well, then I got it wrong , I thought you mean than in Pakistan married women can not travel without being accompanied by their husbands.

[umairfinland]

well, then I got it wrong , I thought you mean than in Pakistan married women can not travel without being accompanied by their husbands.

well, that may be the case in Saudi Arabia, but there is no such restriction in Pakistan. However, it is difficult for a woman to travel alone to another country, arrange travel to an embassy and file an application on her own. By travelling alone i meant to state that the process of applying itself, including travel.

[Pursuivant]

A Finnish woman would spank you for such silly statement.

[Flossy1978]

How come you are able to have a residence permit? What's your reasoning that you are able to have it?

I knew it wasn't just a visit she was coming for LOL. You intend to try and get permits to live here LOL. Even though you said you were going home next year.

[umairfinland]

How come you are able to have a residence permit? What's your reasoning that you are able to have it?

I knew it wasn't just a visit she was coming for LOL. You intend to try and get permits to live here LOL. Even though you said you were going home next year.

Why? are you surprised that Pakistanis can't get residence permit for Finland? I can have it through many reasons, go to migri webpage to see which ways one can get an RP in Finland and you will know.
You are a genious if you know if she was not coming for visit, good for you. I intend to ger permits here becoz lazy people like you sit down and eat social welfare while qualified people come here and work, pay taxes and fund your lazy ass. And whether I am going back home next year or will come back or not , that is none of your business.

[umairfinland]

Do you belong to that category? You're also benefiting from the tax payer by having a free education.

Statistics Finland: 'Greying baby boomers' more people leaving labour force and retiring on pensions in Finland, less people entering workforce and less tax contributions. Very fast ageing population and future projection tells Finnish economy will not remain competitive if qualified skills gap is not bridged. Even if i benefit from free education, i take the courage to learn a foreign language to increase my chances of work in Finland. If i get work, i pay high taxes and eventually contribute to the welfare system as well as the economy as a whole. I am not going to run away after a degree under my belt just bcoz Finland is 'dark' and 'cold' and the language is difficult and Finns are 'shy'. And believe me its a case of Finland needs immigrants more than Immigrants need Finland. And btw i do work even now and am paying taxes ever since I have been in Finland regularly without gap.

[rinso]

However, it is difficult for a woman to travel alone to another country, arrange travel to an embassy and file an application on her own. By travelling alone i meant to state that the process of applying itself, including travel.

Your wife is a student (you claim) so it should be no problem to her. Traveling is no rocket science.

You are a genious if you know if she was not coming for visit, good for you. I intend to ger permits here becoz lazy people like you sit down and eat social welfare while qualified people come here and work, pay taxes and fund your lazy ass. And whether I am going back home next year or will come back or not , that is none of your business.

In one of your other topics you described your plans, so don't BS us if we refer to them. And we suspect that Migri is also reading this forum, so anything you say can and will be used against you. The past will keep on haunting you.

[Oho]

Statistics Finland: 'Greying baby boomers' more people leaving labour force and retiring on pensions in Finland...

Blaa blaa blaa. Play it again Sam and that's exactly what Sam does....

Now baby boomers were born roughly between 45 and 50, thus in their vast majority they already have retired with average retirement age hovering around 60 not 63 which is the official retirement age. Yet real unemployment rate in Finland is well in excess of 10%. About half a million working age people are either unemployed, in some more or less artificial training programs or on unemployment pension. Finland is not in need for work force, not now, and hardly in the foreseeable future. What Finland needs is new jobs and especially new jobs on private sector preferably in export industries, as wages for public sector jobs in medical and elderly care must be collected as taxes from private sector. This while companies like Nokia push pretty qualified people with graduate or doctoral degrees by their thousands out of the job market at or near their prime around 45 years of age. Finland does not need work force to fill open vacancies, Finland needs work force for non existent jobs to maintain bloated public sector and welfare state headed for bankruptcy, so there.

But then again do feel cozy in the bull !"#¤% you have been fed by, well pretty much everybody. Right wing wants cheap labor and liberal left want to carry on with their pet social engineering project for multicultural country as they absolutely despise, in manner typical to western Europe, anything and everything domestic be that culture, customs or values. Now that's enough ranting for me.

[browndude]

A Finnish woman would spank you for such silly statement.

That is a terribly ignorant thing to say. Do you realize there are people in this world who actually enjoy being spanked??
On a serious note, from what I observed in my interactions with some Pakistanis, Pakistani women are brought up to be totally dependent on men.
Plus, women will get harassed even walking down the street most of the time in India and Pakistan. So that is probably why the guy says that it is
difficult for his wife to go alone.

[Flossy1978]

Ai jaa....

For your information, I work here in Finland and pay my taxes. I have since I came here 13 years ago. It's you who's bludging off the generosity of this country with getting a free education and then trying to !"#¤% your wife's way into the country, without having putting a cent in the system. Undoubtably both of you will do whatever you can to get as much as you can from the system if you are successful in getting the RP (or probably even without it some way), so please.... shut the hell up.

[Pursuivant]

Pakistani women are brought up to be totally dependent on men.
Plus, women will get harassed even walking down the street most of the time in India and Pakistan.

Thats their problem, not EU, Schengen or Finland's problem. If they want to travel to civilized countries they should become civilized to travel.