Immigration question

[AussieInFinland]

Hi!

I have recently accepted a job offer in Helsinki. A little bit of information first of all. I am an Australian passport holder, and my wife is a duel Australian/ British (EU) passport holder. My employment contract is for 2 years and my wife doesn't have any work lined up yet. My new employer has assured me that I have all the rights of a resident as my employment contract is for 2 years.

My new employer has put me in contact with a relocation service who are meant to look after everything necessary for the move. My assumption was that they would arrange my workers permit prior to my departing Australia and that when I pass through immigration in Finland I would specify I am entering the country for work. However, because my wife is a EU passport holder, the relocation firm has said that I should arrive in Helsinki 1-2 weeks prior to my work start date and that they will arrange the workers permit after I arrive in the country.

My question is, how do I pass through immigration, as someone intending to work in Finland, without a visa? Is my wife's EU passport enough to get us both through immigration no questions asked? I am concerned that I won't be allowed in the country; surely as my intention is not to holiday I would need some kind of a visa?

I'm sure the relocation firm knows what they're doing but I feel as though I am missing something.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[Adrian42]

You cannot be turned away at the border if you arrive with your EU spouse (and proof of relationship) unless you pose a public or security threat (http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/tr ... dex_en.htm).

I wouldn't do that, but it's anyway irrelevant here:

As a citizen of Australia, he can enter and stay for 90 days without a visa in the Schengen area.

[Flossy1978]

I agree with Adrian.

You'll be fine.

[Adrian42]

You cannot be turned away at the border if you arrive with your EU spouse (and proof of relationship) unless you pose a public or security threat (http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/tr ... dex_en.htm).

I wouldn't do that, but it's anyway irrelevant here:

You wouldn't do what exactly?!

I doubt this "the border authorities should give them the opportunity to prove by any means that they are your family members" would work in practice. In the unlikely case that the border guards know that this is even possible: Are you sure you have all the necessary documents in the correct languages to prove that you got married and are still married? And a random border guard in whatever country you enter the Schengen area might not have the slightest idea how Australian marriage certificates look like, and might assume it is fake until proven otherwise. For the Finnish embassy in Australia checking marriage certificates is something they do every day, and they know how to do that.

If you even get that far - the airline might deny you boarding the plane when you have neither a visa/RP nor visa-free access to your destination.

[Upphew]

the relocation firm has said that I should arrive in Helsinki 1-2 weeks prior to my work start date and that they will arrange the workers permit after I arrive in the country.

No workers permit here. Just residence permit.
Can you fit yourself to these rules: http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit
RP in 1-2 weeks sounds... funny.

[Rip]

The link was just a demonstration of what his rights are at points of entry regardless of if you think the border officer will accept his proof of relationship or not. It's evident you like to contradict just for the sake of it.

Some here maybe interested in how things also work in practice, even if you weren't.
Also as mentioned, trying to come here without residence permit or return ticket may contain a risk of being denied boarding by the airline before ever getting to Europe.

[Pursuivant]

the relocation firm has said that I should arrive in Helsinki 1-2 weeks prior to my work start date and that they will arrange the workers permit after I arrive in the country.

No workers permit here. Just residence permit.
Can you fit yourself to these rules: http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit
RP in 1-2 weeks sounds... funny.

I think they are trying to be getting an non-EU spouse residence card. I think think law says though that the "EU free movement" with an non-EU spouse can only happen "from EU" and not from places beyond... and that would also require the EU being the one coming to work and having their residence registered and then registering the non-EU...

[Upphew]

the relocation firm has said that I should arrive in Helsinki 1-2 weeks prior to my work start date and that they will arrange the workers permit after I arrive in the country.

No workers permit here. Just residence permit.
Can you fit yourself to these rules: http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... nce_permit
RP in 1-2 weeks sounds... funny.

I think they are trying to be getting an non-EU spouse residence card. I think think law says though that the "EU free movement" with an non-EU spouse can only happen "from EU" and not from places beyond... and that would also require the EU being the one coming to work and having their residence registered and then registering the non-EU...

If I were the wife, I'd inform the relocation company, that my services will cost five to six figures...

[cors187]

Hi!

I have recently accepted a job offer in Helsinki. A little bit of information first of all. I am an Australian passport holder, and my wife is a duel Australian/ British (EU) passport holder. My employment contract is for 2 years and my wife doesn't have any work lined up yet. My new employer has assured me that I have all the rights of a resident as my employment contract is for 2 years.

My new employer has put me in contact with a relocation service who are meant to look after everything necessary for the move. My assumption was that they would arrange my workers permit prior to my departing Australia and that when I pass through immigration in Finland I would specify I am entering the country for work. However, because my wife is a EU passport holder, the relocation firm has said that I should arrive in Helsinki 1-2 weeks prior to my work start date and that they will arrange the workers permit after I arrive in the country.

My question is, how do I pass through immigration, as someone intending to work in Finland, without a visa? Is my wife's EU passport enough to get us both through immigration no questions asked? I am concerned that I won't be allowed in the country; surely as my intention is not to holiday I would need some kind of a visa?

I'm sure the relocation firm knows what they're doing but I feel as though I am missing something.

Thanks in advance for any help!

If your really an employed person and not a leased employee.
SCHENGEN ENTRY POINT=You tell them your here on business.=you enter.
1st day work-You need to have a tax card,Its possible to get one without res-permit but everything is based on the job classification.In anycase its a Tax-at-source Card.

Your employer obviously is lining you up for a specialist res-permit which you can submit completed if you meet the requirements.
Take a look in there for general info.I believe this res-permit is the only one that allows you to work up to 3 months as a tax at source(on entry) and then keep working(no waiting period) until your specialist res-permit is completed.
http://www.migri.fi/download/44065_OLE_TY2_en.pdf

good info
http://www.migri.fi/working_in_finland/ ... specialist


General Employment res-permit would require you to wait for completion which means that if you did receive a tax at source card and worked for 3 months , you cant start working again until your OLE_TY1 res-permit is ready.
http://www.migri.fi/download/41723_OLE_TY1_en.pdf


http://www.vero.fi/en-US/Individuals/Ar ... in_Finland
Great info , but its a finnish link farm with link in links and other confusing menu options.
So you just need to go into applicable links which might hold another link to the exact info.



http://www.vero.fi/en-US/Individuals/Ar ... 2817267%29
key employee info

Other than that , you didnt give enough info on your job to pin point whats going to happen.