stem cells harvest in finland

[Rip]

So the hospitals on the capital region collect stem cell when the baby borns in their public research bank to have the real possibility to have a big quantity of cells to research and develop treatments.

Except, as linked already above, this was discontinued earlier this year.

This is the question they will probably ask you when your baby will be born. If you say "yes" that blood will go to the hospital blood bank after being analyzed.

Not any more.

[andreabena]

Except, as linked already above, this was discontinued earlier this year.

What Rip is saying looks very strange to me. The chief I mentioned said that the regular procedure of collecting cord blood started by Jorvi hospital and Naistenklinikka in May/June 2012. That is the time when I gave birth. They were preparing the procedure also for Kätilöopisto as well. Rip, was your child born in the beginning of 2013? They didn't ask you if they could analyze and store the cord blood? Maybe you were in Kätilöopisto or they did it without even asking you as it is now in their standard procedure.

[Rip]

Last time I was in a maternity ward was in 2011. I recall we got a consent form during one of the pre-checkups. Was it ever signed I don't remember (It wasn't my signature they wanted), nor was I paying any attention to the bits between my wife and the baby when he was born.

Anyway, the comment that they would not be doing it any more was not based on personal experience, but on the linked web page (I recall seeing the news some time earlier already):
Now I notice there is even an English language version:
http://www.veripalvelu.fi/www/743

Collection of umbilical cord blood will end


The Finnish Red Cross Blood Service has decided to stop collecting stem cells from umbilical cord blood. Collecting the cells has become financially unprofitable, and cannot be continued by the Finnish Red Cross Blood Service. This change will not affect the availability of umbilical cord blood transplants in Finland.

The date on the Finnish language web page is June 12th, 2013, though it is possible that is only the latest update on a item that was published with mostly the same content already somewhat earlier.

[kalena_ale]

Too bad they don t allow it..i m not happy to travel 8th months pregbant to get home to wait for the delivery and then wait again until my babygirl could travel ...i m sooo scared about all...if only they could just do it here...

[kalena_ale]

One of my friends gave birth today and she said that they showed the placenta to her and then they just put it in a bag and took it somewherw.i wonder what r they doing with it?

[onkko]

Not to offend or not to not offend but you remind me on people who really wanted finnish healtcare to take care of psycic stones, those heal you etc and those are totally needed.... I dont joke, this is real.

I do know and understand that in some cases stem cells are good but do you mind to tell when those are needed? and what kind of possibilitity there is to need one? And possibility that it helps.

Is it more likely than winning in lottery that your child needs one? I will count so dont lie. Just tell what kind of decease its against for.

[andreabena]

Not to offend or not to not offend but you remind me on people who really wanted finnish healtcare to take care of psycic stones, those heal you etc and those are totally needed.... I dont joke, this is real.

I do know and understand that in some cases stem cells are good but do you mind to tell when those are needed? and what kind of possibilitity there is to need one? And possibility that it helps.

Is it more likely than winning in lottery that your child needs one? I will count so dont lie. Just tell what kind of decease its against for.

Please onkko, write in english, it is very difficult to guess what you are trying to say. Maybe shorter sentences with "," and "." in between!
There are many possible uses of stem cells. To make it short you can generate and regenerate cells and tissues of different structure and kind to be used in diseases like cancer, muscular deficiency, bone deficiency, and so on. Very important if in your family there is an history of these sicknesses it is wise to know about it.

For more details read about it on specialized medical magazine, on the internet, or at the university libraries.

[kalena_ale]

Thank u everyone for the advices and infos u ve given me.since i can t have those cells collected here i ve started preparations for giving birth back home.thank you again!u ve been a real help!

[onkko]

hmm.... idiots.
OP wanted finns to do that....

Why else she would complain about local ways....

[kalena_ale]

geeez onkko just stop it...what s this?we ask things here JUST to find info that we might have missed...nothing else...and really do u think that if it comes to my baby i ll wait for kela to solve smth??i talk when i have the means and the ways to do it somehow else!!!!anyhow...DON T take things so personal!!!cause they aren t !!!!

[onkko]

I didnt take question personal, your whine about how finland is so "backward" i took as offend.
Its my tax money what pays all treatments and harvests and i do want that there is some other background than wishes and hopes. I do know that there is maybe possibilities with stem cells but currently it seems that there isnt anything else than dim hope to marginal amount of unlucky kids.

You can arrange that in private hospital etc and i wont mind, then its your decision. If you want goverment or public healthcare to help you then i do care.

Show me numbers. I have red few counts about public vaccinations and there are cruel numbers about those... its all about money. How many we save and how many we kill and how much it saves public money. If saving one life ends up to cost millions then its not worth of it, sorry but thats how it is.

Lets say that possibility to get cancer etc at young age is 1/1000 what is high number and that stem cells help partially in 1/10 cases and and cure 1/50
Possibility to get cure from stem cells would be 1/50000 what would mean, if we count only 1000e, 50 000 000e per cure and 10 000 000 per partial help....

[kalena_ale]

onkko....in finland u can t do the harvest not even in private clinics...with your own money...again i wasn t talking about kela s money..but ours...and then when you put it that way it s also our tax money:)my boyfriend pays loootsof money for taxes almost 50%..don t you think we should. have something to say also...??no worries i m not offending finland...i only expressed my opinion!

[Upphew]

Well...as far as i know..they are really helpful in case of leucemia

More helpful than stem cells collected from the person before the chemo/cytostatic treatments?

[kalena_ale]

upphew..i was really interested in stem cells and on their benefits ..but i didn t search for ur exact question.the most valuable stem cells are those from cord blood and placenta collected at delivery.and if the person is compatible the transplat may be a succes even for grown up persons.there were many articles posted on this topic earlier..so if u want u can take a look...

[onkko]

Leukemia... 50 cases on childs per year and there are 60 000+ childs per year. and with current treatments about 80% are permanently healed. So it means 10 childs of 60 000 dont heal...

How much collecting stem cells would cost and how good probabilities it would give?