WHY ??????

[skylove]

hi .i just see lot of somalie people in finland and i was thinking that small country in africa have war and more bad things happen also but when i see them in finland they have lot of right things then anyother country .i mean the covernement give them even helo them for work and house even lot of things .so my question is why they have more right things then anyother people live in finland Local or foreign?
thank you .

[foca]

The answer is very easy:
National Coalition, Christian Democrats of Finland, Centre Party, Swedish People's Party of Finland,Social Democratic Party of Finland, Left Alliance,Green League and all other left and social democrats of EU.

[betelgeuse]

so my question is why they have more right things then anyother people live in finland Local or foreign?

The constitution of Finland:

Section 19 - The right to social security

Those who cannot obtain the means necessary for a life of dignity have the right to receive indispensable subsistence and care.

Everyone shall be guaranteed by an Act the right to basic subsistence in the event of unemployment, illness, and disability and during old age as well as at the birth of a child or the loss of a provider.

Everyone has rights. Somalis do not have any more rights than other groups. It just doesn't make sexy topics to talk about how locals rely on government.

[skylove]

yes i know what u mean but but estonia people don't have what somalie have i mean if estonia people travel to finland no one can help u must find out lot of things from ur self i mean house and work but somalie people the first day put them feet in finland the governement give them work and house i said that couse i know both people side i not talking like that and i don't want to make problame with any one just to see they is smething u can't do anything about it that's all

[Pursuivant]

Considering the amount of "racism" they claim to face daily you'd think they'd been forced on fields to collect cabbages.. But that what was facing them in Russia, so they came to Stupidlandia... then again Sweden has far more lush "bidrag" system (Norway and Denmark are lush too, but they got immigration controls unlike Sweden that hopsan hejsan fjallerallera)

[Honest]

They don't get more. It's garbage. They get equal. Stop believing Perussuomalaiset and Daily Mail.

Totally agree. A lot of people have this misconception that refugees get more money and rights than others, that is totally baseless propaganda.

i mean the covernement give them even helo them for work .

You are wrong, government doesn't say hello to work to anybody.

[PredatoR]

I think the problem; They do not work. So no labor force from them. That may irritate lots of people and I do not consider it as racism.

[Honest]

They do not work.
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" We" and "they" are the key words and are the main problem.

I have seen many of those "they" as taxi drivers, bus drivers, cleaners, strawberry pickers, factory workers and one I saw yesterday in army uniform as well. There can be many of them who don't want to work because they want easy kela money but many of them work as well and many of them want to work but don't have enough opportunities. For example in most of the cases (not always) their application for a sales person would be rejected at first step even if they speak fluent Finnish and have the required qualifications.

There is a problem but it's not as black and white as the OP and perussuomaliasiet try to present.

[Rip]

many of them work as well and many of them want to work but don't have enough opportunities.

Yes, there are plenty of people unemployed right now. Even those that have some education. "Black and white", well what ever, but it is at least dark enough gray when we have "refugees" coming continuously from countries where they go to have holidays and send their kids there after getting residence permits here where (as recorded in a court case) "living is free".
Having large families while living on welfare and thinking that naturally the city should offer them large apartments. High crime rates and lately tendency to travel long distance for the pleasure to slowly cut infidels heads offs with knives is then a icing on the cake.

I know, the OP is quite possibly a just trolling and might be native Finn, but it wasn't me who decided to make a thread about it.

[Pursuivant]

They don't get more. It's garbage. They get equal.

No they get more. I was here in the 90's and was getting f-all. Then some fat gits start coming off the Moscow train and they get housing and three square meals a day and pocket money. And I still got f-all. And I was working 10-hour shifts on a minimum wage watching them sitting on their asses doing nothing, and I still had f-all left, not my own place, nothing. And then the crime rate on top. So, don't you start lecturing me of "propaganda" - I first handed witnessed this, and also how politicians created themselves a nice cottage industry out of human trafficking and system abuse.

So yes, you are correct that we shouldn't direct our antipathy towards those who are here benefitting of our stupidity, its the stupid Finns that were responsible. And it was lazy gits like me that believed in hard work and ethics who believed the EU propaganda. We should have gone to the streets, gone to the army depots, made a revolution like the rest of Eastern Europe did. Even we lost, whats a life sentence, 12 years for killing a stupid politician, I'd been 30 in the prime of my life. We should have followed Estonia and scrapped all the old. But thats an old man looking back at his misspent youth. I missed my chance and its me you need to blame.

[Pursuivant]

The "fat gits" were the Somalis. We donated money to Africa for Biafra and Ethiopia and there were all these skeleton babies in the news and then these "poor refugees" started coming in we was like " you are the bastards that ate the Ethiopian childrens' food!" Magic word "asylum" and its 2-3 years of government disco money...

Same thing we were getting these "refugee children" was it from Kosovo and they were having beards. Lots of hairy babies with these "underaged asylum seekers"...

And there was Russians too, Koivisto got a heart with the Ingrians that got cattle-trained to Siberia in 1946, so he said they could come back in as "returning Finns". So the expectation was a couple dozen war veterans that had been shafted but on top we got all the smackhead grandchildren. And they got full KELA and all the benefits on landing.

So no, if you come in the country legally you aren't entitled to f-all. Sucks innit?

[Pursuivant]

Just remember to vote for the Greens and Left alliance, they're for "immigrants". Only remember you aren't an "actual immigrant"

[betelgeuse]

As for the fat gits on the Moscow train they don't get anything until they qual for Kela, yes I've known several single Russians came here and who worked long enough to qual for Kela then sat back and enjoyed the handout.

Income support is not tied to being eligible to any Kela benefits. The problem is that many don't know to apply for it or then don't apply for because of the social stigma and bureaucratic nature of income support. I would assume refugees get directions on how to apply for all the benefits so in that way they do have an advantage over locals.

[betelgeuse]

No, but there's a difference between social support for refugees and "regular migration" with labour market subsidy / integration support.

Yes there's a different system when your are applying for asylum. However, the payments under that system are lower than for income support.

http://www.migri.fi/asylum_in_finland/r ... _allowance