insult and assault

[rinso]

Being drunk was a long time not unacceptable in Finland but this attitude is changing.
How hard the court will come down on you depends on the judge. And it seems they are becoming more strict.
If there has not been a real fight, I agree that it's unlikely you'll go to jail. Although I would not exclude a suspended sentence.
A steep fine is almost certain however.
And yes, a conviction for assault will remain in your record and will have influence on RP related matters.

In court you have several options;
a- plea guilty, say you're sorry and accept the punishment.
b. try to describe it as a minor incident which is taken out of proportion. (in the hope you'll get of light.)
c. don't show up.
d. play the race card.

[rinso]

Guys ,, Topic is about "how much fine? or no fine at all"
what are you talking about ,, ,,Visa ,apply citizenship
you guys have a nightmare called... visa,citizenship.stay in the country. married for visa
also "racism" what racism. you don.t know what is racism is ,, look at the world news and you know what racism is ,, Finland has no "racism"

i think you guys full of hate and anger , i post one topic and hell comes.. most of you put his hate and anger on me
only one good answer from "Upphew"
i hate lamer ,, i might been in the wrong forum

Visa based on marriage? Excellent, they can cancel a visa when someone is violent and send them back where they came from.

If this incident is typical for his behaviour (drunk, aggressive) I don't see a long lasting marriage for him. And then the RP matter will be resolved.

[Beep_Boop]

I think you guys misunderstood one part. By saying:

you guys have a nightmare called... visa,citizenship.stay in the country. married for visa

He means that foreigners (in this case, us) are so afraid of visas/RP/citizenship stuff just to stay in the country, and some even get married just for an RP. He's trying to criticize. Due to his awful English, that was lost in translation.

you don.t know what is racism is ,, look at the world news and you know what racism is ,, Finland has no "racism"

There is racism in Finland, and it's manifested by discrimination in many areas of life, on all kinds of levels, and by many types of people. Is it the biggest problem Finland has? I don't think so. But does it exist? Yes.

Now, saying that it's worse in somewhere else in the world doesn't mean that the situation in Finland is suddenly better. Of course, I don't expect you to understand what relative privation is.

[downhand]

First timer wouldn't sit a night in jail anyway and 75% of assaults get fines: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahoinpitely

What a shame! He assaulted the cashier and he threatened to kill her. Given it's a combination of assault and a verbal threat, this can easily be an "aggravated threat to kill". To be honest, I don't know about the Finnish law when it comes to intoxication as a mitigating factor.
The way OP is writing, he doesn't strike me as a first timer, though.

First time getting caught maybe?

[Pursuivant]

First time I hear someone call security guards nice

The law is there in Finlex, you can actually get more sentence from the insult these days. You might not need to "go to court" as its a waste of time and money. They send you a "plea bargain" of sorts, that you agree on the public prosecutors demand and won't plea... Then the verdict is what it is. Can be community service as well as a fine.

Next time over, they don't sell you beer, go find some teenagers and ask them to ho buy the beer for you

[Pursuivant]

Theres been a lot of talk lately, that the justice system is way too lenient. It was quite draconian in the 50's and 60's and swungvto the other end of the pendulum in the 70's and 80's.

[dsi11]

People like this give the rest of us foreigners a bad name.

Even if he didn't physically assault anybody. And especially because he seems to think what he did is OK, as long as he didn't physically assault anybody. Somehow spitting and verbal abuse are OK and deserve a slap on the wrist or something.

[tuttu]

People like this give the rest of us foreigners a bad name.
Even if he didn't physically assault anybody. And especially because he seems to think what he did is OK, as long as he didn't physically assault anybody. Somehow spitting and verbal abuse are OK and deserve a slap on the wrist or something.

and it seems he's gone anyway.
some people think they can post about anything and get support.
the random drunk violence support thread:
"hey, i tend to spit on shop assistants when they don't want to sell me beer, is that ok? sure you understand? oh, i hope i don't get fined!"

[caster]

Fine value will be derived from your annual income - so do the math yourself when sober otherwise it may look too much

Next time while drunk try to spit on incoming Metro

[onkko]

Being drunk was a long time not unacceptable in Finland but this attitude is changing.

Actually what i have understood being drunk is and was always understood, its just not a excuse of all behaviour.
Drunk is not always coherent etc. and thats understood but violent behaviour is always not, in case where you wake up drunk and he swings is (wtf came here!) understanable (same can happen by deep sleapers) etc..
Being drunk is not excuse by law.