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aiat_gamer
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TV model numbers

Post by aiat_gamer » Sat May 30, 2015 10:45 pm

I want to buy a TV and I was browsing this website:
https://www.hobbyhall.fi/elektroniikka- ... #Odatedesc;

I picked a few models and decided to do some research on them...after a few confused minutes I realized something, the model numbers seem to be different for EU or possibly Nordic countries! So I basically have no idea that each model translates to which one so I can read a review on some of the well known sites. :(
Does anyone has any experience with this and knows how can I translate the model numbers to non-EU?



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riku2
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Re: TV model numbers

Post by riku2 » Sat May 30, 2015 11:14 pm

aiat_gamer wrote:how can I translate the model numbers to non-EU?
It's almost impossible. even comparing models in the EU is hard. The UK often has different model numbers, just because the plug is different (the TV's are now mostly the same, years ago the tuners were slightly different). Small things may cause a difference, like 3 hdmi ports instead of 2 (with the tv otherwise identical). Or the case might be gray instead of black, so another thing that will divert you from finding a review of an otherwise identical tv.

It's possible to crack the codes of a single manufacturer (eg learn which panasonic models match to which) but the numbering system is different to samsung and different again to sony etc.

To further complicate things (as if not complicated already) then some big retailers have special models made just for them, these might differ very slightly (like 2 hdmi instead of 3). The model is otherwise identical to what is sold elsewhere. Companies as big as Dixons (who own gigantti in finland) are known for this. They can claim an exclusive model, avoid price match (although that concept doesn't exist in finland) and perhaps save a few cents on each tv due to one less HDMI socket.

But all the above is for comparing within the EU! if you want to match the models to north american versions then it's even harder still. I would give up. The electronics are rarely the same. In my travels to the US the tv's rarely accept 50 frames/second pictures but european tv's will happily display 50 and 60 frames/sec (and i'm talking quite recent samsung LCD tv's).
model numbers are different specs are different
Well yes, but if there is a fantastic review of a tv in the uk and there is an identical model here with different model number but silver case instead of black then you'd still be interested in the review and probably buy it since the colour of the case won't affect what it's like to watch the tv. The same for the type of stand (four feet instead of one big one). The list of unimportant differences goes on.

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Re: TV model numbers

Post by aiat_gamer » Sat May 30, 2015 11:36 pm

riku2 wrote:
aiat_gamer wrote:how can I translate the model numbers to non-EU?
It's almost impossible. even comparing models in the EU is hard. The UK often has different model numbers, just because the plug is different (the TV's are now mostly the same, years ago the tuners were slightly different). Small things may cause a difference, like 3 hdmi ports instead of 2 (with the tv otherwise identical). Or the case might be gray instead of black, so another thing that will divert you from finding a review of an otherwise identical tv.

It's possible to crack the codes of a single manufacturer (eg learn which panasonic models match to which) but the numbering system is different to samsung and different again to sony etc.

To further complicate things (as if not complicated already) then some big retailers have special models made just for them, these might differ very slightly (like 2 hdmi instead of 3). The model is otherwise identical to what is sold elsewhere. Companies as big as Dixons (who own gigantti in finland) are known for this. They can claim an exclusive model, avoid price match (although that concept doesn't exist in finland) and perhaps save a few cents on each tv due to one less HDMI socket.

But all the above is for comparing within the EU! if you want to match the models to north american versions then it's even harder still. I would give up. The electronics are rarely the same. In my travels to the US the tv's rarely accept 50 frames/second pictures but european tv's will happily display 50 and 60 frames/sec (and i'm talking quite recent samsung LCD tv's).
model numbers are different specs are different
Well yes, but if there is a fantastic review of a tv in the uk and there is an identical model here with different model number but silver case instead of black then you'd still be interested in the review and probably buy it since the colour of the case won't affect what it's like to watch the tv. The same for the type of stand (four feet instead of one big one). The list of unimportant differences goes on.
God damn it, I figured as much... :ohno: I don`t think I will ever be able to buy a TV without first reading some reviews on it. Thanks for the comprehensive answer by the way.

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Re: TV model numbers

Post by caster » Sun May 31, 2015 12:14 am

TV Identification Numbers TINs are different - just like VINs for vehicles - and serves the same purpose - to control many different things. In my opinion - just make sure whatever make/model you buy has an ultimate processing speed, if you thinking of buying 46" better go for 50"+ many offers in the local market are because they want to get rid of old stuff 2014 models - better check with the local distributer first before you compare that to the local stores.

What I miss in smart HD or UHD TVs is powerful processors - also bigger sizes are not available in local market comparing to other markets. Try to reach the authorised local distributor (the main source) for the brand you chose and ask them the tech details (such as processor etc) :lol:
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Re: TV model numbers

Post by riku2 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:02 am

caster wrote:just make sure whatever make/model you buy has an ultimate processing speed
It depends what you want the tv for and also whether you believe in electronic tricks to "improve" the picture.
If you are watching internet or streamed content then a fast cpu is probably important, but if you have connected the tv to a blu-ray player or digibox then the cpu is less relevant.
Many manufacturers try to convince you that more frames/second is better. Models at the bottom of the range will do 100 Hz, higher up 200 Hz or 300 Hz. It's pointless in my opinion. The original material will be 24 Hz, 50Hz or 60Hz. The higher speeds just try to manufacture intermediate frames with software. It's a fake, just like cololourising black and white movies. I turn all those frame interpolation features off. If something is filmed at 24 fps then your tv can't invent extra things that the original film didn't capture.
Happily the race for thinner and thinner tvs ended a few years ago. The manufacturers realised that people noticed that the thinner the LCD tv the harder it was for the backlight to be even.

I would rate the most important feature to be back illumination instead of edge illumination (the LED's are in a grid behind the tv, not stuck on the top and bottom edge). Ask yourself where the light for the middle of the panel comes from. There are plenty of low end models with back illumination.


As for "old stuff 2014 models": don't assume that this years model is better than last years model. Here are two quotes from reviews of Sony top end HD models (same website):
There’s just no sugarcoating this: the KDL-55W955B is the worst-performing Sony Bravia flagship HDTV we’ve reviewed in terms of picture quality. It’s a disappointing departure from the excellent heritage of high-end Bravia TVs
The Bravia KDL-55W905A is yet another fantastic HDTV from Sony that flies the LED LCD flag high. ... accurate out-of-the-box greyscale and colours which, on the whole, ranks as the best we’ve measured on any 2013 flat-screen television so far. That the display hits 2.4 gamma by default in its most accurate [Cinema 1] picture preset is just icing on the cake, delivering pictures that are lusciously rich in image contrast
The first review is for the 2014 model, the second review is for the equivalent 2013 model! Every review of the 2013 model said it was one of the best HD TV's going. Every review of the 2014 replacement said it was a disaster.

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Re: TV model numbers

Post by caster » Sun May 31, 2015 2:49 pm

FloydFin wrote:
caster wrote:What I miss in smart HD or UHD TVs is powerful processors - also bigger sizes are not available in local market comparing to other markets. Try to reach the authorised local distributor (the main source) for the brand you chose and ask them the tech details (such as processor etc) :lol:
I'm starting to suspect there's a bug causing this emoticon to attach to all your posts. Either that or I'm not getting the jokes.
You are right - its a bug that emotion ends up like this even when I avoid..
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. I'm gonna grant him all my old underwears that fit his head helping his nose stays in place

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Re: TV model numbers

Post by caster » Sun May 31, 2015 4:28 pm

riku2 wrote: It depends what you want the tv for and also whether you believe in electronic tricks to "improve" the picture.
If you are watching internet or streamed content then a fast cpu is probably important, but if you have connected the tv to a blu-ray player or digibox then the cpu is less relevant.
You are right. when you already have a smart TV then you do not need a digibox and when you can store - save - stream HD movies then what is the use of blu ray player. Also when different channels started streaming everything through clouds then the same TVs owners will look for supper fast alternative to quad cores or X1s processors.

In my experience with smart TV hubs - it's slower than iphone 5 (I am talking about opening an app - loading and streaming and while the app is open and running you can't switch to other stuff) broadband 10 MB over WiFi works fine but always slow to connect - now might someone says it's a 10MB speed but I rather will say its the hardware that lack fine tuning by the manufacturers.
I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. I'm gonna grant him all my old underwears that fit his head helping his nose stays in place


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