Train Ticket Cost(Helsinki-Leppävaara)

Adokas · Post by **Adokas** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:04 pm

Cheers all,

I'm going to start my studies from this August at Laurea UAS' Leppävaara campus. I couldn't find a place to stay in Espoo so I'm going to start searching for a place in Helsinki. I was wondering, if I live in Helsinki, how much transportation would cost for me? Laurea UAS is really close to Leppävaara train station, so if it's not going to cost too much, I'm going to do that.

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betelgeuse · Post by **betelgeuse** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:20 pm

Adokas wrote: I'm going to start my studies from this August at Laurea UAS' Leppävaara campus. I couldn't find a place to stay in Espoo so I'm going to start searching for a place in Helsinki. I was wondering, if I live in Helsinki, how much transportation would cost for me? Laurea UAS is really close to Leppävaara train station, so if it's not going to cost too much, I'm going to do that.

https://www.hsl.fi/en/tickets-and-fares

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:47 pm

Since you'll probably be going every day, you can take the commuter to Leppävaara. Get a monthly region ticket (seutulippu), it's 50 euros/month if you have a student ticket.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:41 pm

The transport authority have a bit of trouble with their terminology (both in english and finnish).

personal season tickets: should be called residents season tickets. You get a cheaper price if you live in a certain area (based on the principle that local taxpayers get a discount on local public transport because the taxes they pay partly funds public transport)

multi-user season ticket: basically means non residents. and because you don't have to prove residency you can lend the ticket to anybody you like

For the zones if you click the i in a circle next to travel area then you can see the zones. https://www.hsl.fi/en/tickets-and-fares/2014

Quite how the names of the zones match reality is a mystery: A region two zone ticket is 8 municipalities (excludes Helsinki) . A region three zone ticket is 9 municipalities.. "two zone" does not two municipalities out of the eight either, it means all 8. I suppose the numbers make sense to somebody.

Students get a 50% discount on the tickets prices shown.

For some zones only residents can buy a season ticket, Non residents must buy individual tickets, there is no season ticket available for them at any price.

To get the student discount you must live in certain municipalities but this list is different to the list of municipalities which would quality for the personal (residents) season tickets. eg if you live in tuusula and travel to Helsinki then you can buy the cheaper personal (residents) monthly ticket. But if you are a student and live in tuusula then you cannot get the student discount (tuusula not in the list of student discount places but is in the list of personal travelcard places). Students living in Kerava do better, they are in the area for student discounts and personal travelcard prices.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:35 pm

tummansininen wrote:1,83€ per trip if you pay a single ticket by a resident's travel card

How do you come up with the 1.83e price? I thought the residents discount was only applicable to season tickets (eg two weeks or a month) but for individual tickets you don't get a resident's discount. you can put money on your residents card but the price of a single trip would be the same as for a non-resident.

I tried to check here https://www.hsl.fi/en/tickets-and-fares/travel-card but they confuse things further by describing a THIRD type of season ticket called a "personal general season ticket" whatever that is. so there is personal, multi-user and personal general season tickets?

On a different note, the one day ticket is often worthwhile if you will do more than one return trip in a day. But you must decide at the start of the day if you're going to buy individual tickets or a one day ticket (this might seem obvious to most, but not if you're used to London's system of letting you buy individual tickets all day long, but once you've paid the same as a one day ticket the additional tickets are free for the rest of the day - meaning you never have to think "should I buy individual tickets or a one day ticket today".
One day tickets are awkwardly called a "single-charge card", this is better explained as a disposable travelcard. It works like a travel card but you throw it away once it's used up and can't recharge it. You can buy them in advance and they are activated the first time you use them (so you can have half a dozen at home and use them as and when needed)
From what i've read you cannot load a one day pass onto a rechargeable travelcard, only disposable travelcards can have the one day pass.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:12 am

tummansininen wrote:If you have a look for yourself on the website, set Espoo and have a look at the fare, then change your home municipality to "other" and you'll see even the single fare immediately doubles in price.

I tried it and you are right, the single trip tickets paid with the travelcard are cheaper when paid with a personal/residents travelcard than a multi-user/non-residents card.

But this only applies to students and not adult tickets. This is because the student discount is only granted to students resident in certain municipalities. That list of municipalities is not the same as the list for the personal/resident travelcard. So the effect isn't because of personal/multi user travel card difference but because of which area the student discount applies to.

I'm not really sure on the logic of this. Why are students living in Tuusula not given the discount but students living in Kerava are. Adults living in Tuusula would get the same prices as somebody living in Kerava though.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:34 am

riku2 wrote: Why are students living in Tuusula not given the discount but students living in Kerava are.

AFAIK because Tuusula does not want to pay for it.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:04 pm

Rip wrote:AFAIK because Tuusula does not want to pay for it.

Yes, it seems that once you are outside the helsinki/espoo/vantaa area of HSL then it's total chaos as to zones, prices, who qualifies for what kinds of discount. No consistency at all with local boroughs deciding themselves what to do and even VR having different ticketing zones to what HSL have
Online information is similarly chaotic although probably outside the three main boroughs most people are using cars and those who use public transport are regulars who know what to do.

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