Citizenship application 2015

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Rip
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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Rip » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:19 am

sky2 wrote: Do you have the permanent residence card or is it the sticker on your passport? If you have the residence card, I don't think it is any crime to have the expired passport.

Presumably the formal reason for the fine was this:
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Passi

Ulkomaalaisella on maahan saapuessaan ja maassa oleskellessaan oltava koti- tai oleskelumaansa viranomaisen antama voimassa oleva passi, joka hänen on vaadittaessa esitettävä rajatarkastusviranomaiselle tai poliisille.

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Ulkomaalaisrikkomus

Ulkomaalainen, joka

1) tahallaan oleskelee maassa ilman vaadittavaa matkustusasiakirjaa, viisumia tai oleskelulupaa taikka laiminlyö velvollisuutensa rekisteröidä oleskelunsa taikka hakea oleskelulupakortti, oleskelukortti tai pysyvä oleskelukortti,

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on tuomittava ulkomaalaisrikkomuksesta sakkoon.
Ulkomaalaislaki / Alien's Act.

- and yes, based on the Citizen Act it looks like your application would be now rejected (you can try again a little later)



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niceboy3434
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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by niceboy3434 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:37 pm

Rip wrote:
sky2 wrote: Do you have the permanent residence card or is it the sticker on your passport? If you have the residence card, I don't think it is any crime to have the expired passport.

Presumably the formal reason for the fine was this:
13 §
Passi

Ulkomaalaisella on maahan saapuessaan ja maassa oleskellessaan oltava koti- tai oleskelumaansa viranomaisen antama voimassa oleva passi, joka hänen on vaadittaessa esitettävä rajatarkastusviranomaiselle tai poliisille.

(...)

185 §
Ulkomaalaisrikkomus

Ulkomaalainen, joka

1) tahallaan oleskelee maassa ilman vaadittavaa matkustusasiakirjaa, viisumia tai oleskelulupaa taikka laiminlyö velvollisuutensa rekisteröidä oleskelunsa taikka hakea oleskelulupakortti, oleskelukortti tai pysyvä oleskelukortti,

(...)
on tuomittava ulkomaalaisrikkomuksesta sakkoon.
Ulkomaalaislaki / Alien's Act.

- and yes, based on the Citizen Act it looks like your application would be now rejected (you can try again a little later)


THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY but i talk with the police an he told me this is not such a big crime cos i didnt knew that foreign citizen always have a valid passport and i have a permanent residence so i am not here living illlegal and i go there by my self to make a new id card and they told me the law and now i applied for aliens passport already and police gave a little fine and i paid it already any way i still have a hope for my citizenship appliciation but now i just wait and see that what comes .

cellarspace
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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by cellarspace » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:34 pm

Anyone who applied in May/ June 2015 gotten a decision yet ?

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Zwagger » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:51 pm

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by cellarspace » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:31 pm

I guess since you proved your identity on the 1st of july , you and I fall in same category and shouldnt expect decisions before february.. Just trying to see if the customary 7 months is still in play since there are no more updates on the Migri website.

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Zwagger » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:20 pm

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by cellarspace » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:04 pm

Wow..That even seem faster than the 7 months...I guess the whole 'immigrant crisis' effect on the decision taking time has waned a lil bit. I applied on the 19th July and confirmed my identity by 27th July and i have set my sights on feb/march at the latest. So I will just take a chill pill :D Let's know how it goes bro

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by many » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:42 pm

Hey Guys, I would like to know if a bad financial situation could affect my application. I have got bills that went to ulossoto due to circumstances beyond my control. I have contacted to make a payment plan but they wouldn't make it for me because my income is low and they don't want to deprive me of my basic official allowance. My question is, since i have not neglected my payment obligations intentionally, what percentage chance would i have in your view, does anyone have a similar situation?

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Zwagger » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:27 am

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Flossy1978
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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Flossy1978 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:20 pm

Why can't you apply for Citizenship after you've fixed your financial problem?

I really don't understand the need for so many people to get their Citizenship here and right now, when they have other issues needing to be addressed.

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by betelgeuse » Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:51 pm

many wrote:Hey Guys, I would like to know if a bad financial situation could affect my application. I have got bills that went to ulossoto due to circumstances beyond my control. I have contacted to make a payment plan but they wouldn't make it for me because my income is low and they don't want to deprive me of my basic official allowance. My question is, since i have not neglected my payment obligations intentionally, what percentage chance would i have in your view, does anyone have a similar situation?
What type of bills were they? If they are private debts, they have no bearing.

http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... bligations

"To be able to acquire Finnish citizenship you must have paid any applicable taxes, fines, student loans, hospital fees, and other such payments. These payments are called ‘payment obligations under public law’."

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by onkko » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:00 pm

My half estonian niece got citizenship today. She got it after nurse/doctor whatever said "healthy girl" and registered her in computer. So now im not only Eno but Setä too :)
Thats by the way only way to know if or when you get citizenship.
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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by Beep_Boop » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:26 pm

onkko wrote: So now im not only Eno but Setä too :)
Congrats!
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by opo009 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:26 pm

well I'm thinking in the application are they gonna really check for example there is this part asking you to write when did you go out of Finland and when come back. if I can't remember all of them and did't write some of them, is it OK?

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Re: Citizenship application 2015

Post by betelgeuse » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:44 pm

opo009 wrote:well I'm thinking in the application are they gonna really check for example there is this part asking you to write when did you go out of Finland and when come back. if I can't remember all of them and did't write some of them, is it OK?
If we are talking about short trips abroad, it does not matter. They are looking for trips longer than a month:

http://www.migri.fi/finnish_citizenship ... de_finland


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