Leaving the country with JUST Permanent ID card?

OrangeCrush · Post by **OrangeCrush** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:03 pm

Would I be safe returning to Finland after a short trip (either by plane or ferry) with just my Permanent Resident ID card? I currently don't have a valid passport. I'm getting so much conflicting info about this - please help me settle this?

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heretostay · Post by **heretostay** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:33 pm

Where are you going? Very risky. For example passports are not consistently checked at Helsinki airport and I also have had mixed experiences on the ferries to Tallinn. You could get out but not be able to get back for example. Your residence permit is not a valid travel document.

betelgeuse · Post by **betelgeuse** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:20 pm

OrangeCrush wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:03 pm
Would I be safe returning to Finland after a short trip (either by plane or ferry) with just my Permanent Resident ID card? I currently don't have a valid passport. I'm getting so much conflicting info about this - please help me settle this?

It’s not a travel document so you need a passport (or other accepted travel document for the trip) as well. Inside Schengen your docs might not be checked. I would not risk it if at all possible.

OrangeCrush · Post by **OrangeCrush** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:22 pm

Thanks, peeps. I'll pony up for the passport then.

heretostay · Post by **heretostay** » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:40 pm

Definitely do that. If I recall from another post, Someone was recently fined for not having a valid passport.

tavastia · Post by **tavastia** » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:38 am

It's an offence for not having a passport, make sure you get one as soon as possible. RP is not a travel document, even in Schengen there are randoms checks, don't leave without the passport.

Upphew · Post by **Upphew** » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:56 am

heretostay wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:40 pm
Definitely do that. If I recall from another post, Someone was recently fined for not having a valid passport.

10 to 40 day fines in Finland, up to 800€ in Estonia. Passport seems to be the cheaper option.

agroot · Post by **agroot** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:53 pm

On migri it says passport and RP, so no need to carry the Finnish ID card right?

Just think I should leave something at home or luggage in case !"#¤% happens.

browndude · Post by **browndude** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:02 am

Permanent residency permit is not equivalent to an ID card as far as I know-even within Finland. For travelling abroad, you need to have both your passport and residency permit with you-nothing conflicting about that.

See the following
https://raja.fi/passi-ja-muut-matkustusasiakirjat

Muiden maiden kansalaiset
Jos olet kolmannen maan kansalainen, tarvitset passin, kun tulet Suomeen. Pelkkä passi riittää, jos tulet Suomeen viisumivapaasta maasta. Muussa tapauksessa tarvitset passin lisäksi viisumin tai oleskeluluvan.

Matkustusasiakirjasi on oltava voimassa vähintään 3 kuukautta sen jälkeen, kun poistut Suomesta tai Schengen-alueelta. Passisi saa olla enintään 10 vuotta sitten myönnetty. Nämä aikarajat eivät kuitenkaan koske sinua, jos sinulla on oleskelulupa Suomeen. Tässä tapauksessa riittää, että passisi ja oleskelulupasi ovat voimassa.

i.e. in your case, passport AND residency permit.

Susan · Post by **Susan** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:08 am

agroot wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:53 pm
On migri it says passport and RP, so no need to carry the Finnish ID card right?

Just think I should leave something at home or luggage in case !"#¤% happens.

In case something happens, you always have to keep copy (paper or digital or both is better) somewhere. If you are travelling, you can keep a paper copy of ALL of your IDs, i.e. passport, residence permit, Finnish ID, et cetera in your accommodation. Also, keeps a digital copy (a photo will do) of ALL of your IDs in your devices, also back up those copies in the Cloud, assuming you use a Cloud storage service.

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