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no surname issue?

Post by Question » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:16 pm

Does anybody know if it will cause problem if I don't have surname in passport neither in any documents??



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betelgeuse
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Re: no surname issue?

Post by betelgeuse » Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:48 pm

Question wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:16 pm
Does anybody know if it will cause problem if I don't have surname in passport neither in any documents??
Under Finnish law everyone must have a surname. You will get a surname ”Surnameless”.

” Väestötietojärjestelmään voidaan tilapäisesti merkitä sukunimen sijasta sukunimetön ja etunimen sijasta etunimetön, jos rekisteröitävällä ei ole nimiä tietoja ensimmäisen kerran talletettaessa.”

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/ ... 70946#L2P4

https://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/ ... 00128#L1P1

Once resident you can choose a surname under Finnish law and rules.

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by Maeke » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:47 pm

Beltegeuse is right.
If I could offer a piece of advice, in your shoes, I would 1st perform a legal name change in my country of origin, and make sure I have the official certificate , then step 2, have that certificate legally translated (with the translation notarized )in either Swedish, Finnish or English. And then I will apply to migri through enterFinland.

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:51 pm

Maeke wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:47 pm
If I could offer a piece of advice, in your shoes, I would 1st perform a legal name change in my country of origin, and make sure I have the official certificate , then step 2, have that certificate legally translated (with the translation notarized )in either Swedish, Finnish or English. And then I will apply to migri through enterFinland.
You would want the certificate apostilled or legalised depending on which process the source country uses.

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:52 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:51 pm
Maeke wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:47 pm
If I could offer a piece of advice, in your shoes, I would 1st perform a legal name change in my country of origin, and make sure I have the official certificate , then step 2, have that certificate legally translated (with the translation notarized )in either Swedish, Finnish or English. And then I will apply to migri through enterFinland.
You would want the certificate apostilled or legalised depending on which process the source country uses.
You could skip all the hassle with the documents by getting a new passport with the new name.

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by Maeke » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:59 pm

Hi Beltegeuse.
I don't know from which country that OP is from, but from what I understood, he legally has no surname. It is the case for example for Uyghurs in Xinjiang and some Tibetans.
But if it's just a matter of a missing surname in an ID document, then you are right, he can just re-do his passport. Way easier.
Regards,

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:16 pm

Maeke wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:59 pm
I don't know from which country that OP is from, but from what I understood, he legally has no surname. It is the case for example for Uyghurs in Xinjiang and some Tibetans.
But if it's just a matter of a missing surname in an ID document, then you are right, he can just re-do his passport. Way easier.
You misunderstood. My point is that when there is no entry in the population register yet, it's easier to have the first entry done from a passport with the new name instead of a passport with an old name plus paperwork related to the change of name.

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by Question » Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:01 pm

Thank you for your replies.

I am from India and planning to come study to Finland. What do you recommend, should I try to get it added or come without. I am not sure if I’ll be able to add it to my school certificates so that might create issue then if I have surname in passport but not in school certficate..?

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Re: no surname issue?

Post by betelgeuse » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm

Question wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:01 pm
I am from India and planning to come study to Finland. What do you recommend, should I try to get it added or come without. I am not sure if I’ll be able to add it to my school certificates so that might create issue then if I have surname in passport but not in school certficate..?
It's common for names to change over a lifetime. You would just need the paperwork linking the names. What you should do depends on the name you want to be known as in India and Finland.


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