toystory wrote: ↑Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:14 pm
>>> FinlandGirl replied:
>>> You are allowed to stay for 3 months as tourists before becoming illegal aliens.
>>> Why do you want to move to a country you have never visited?
>>> If you expect preferential treatment due to your citizenship you will be disappointed.
These comments to me sound like FinlandGirl does not want IssoHappy to move to Finland by referring to the possibility of becoming an illegal alien in about 90 days. Asking questions like why you want to move there in the first place etc? And to not expect preferential treatment. The tone of her message is very clear, it is unwelcoming and prejudicial. I personally do not refer to anyone as an "illegal alien" or point to the possibility of becoming one in future. Most people who post questions here are wise enough to not break the law and become illegals.
Also there is an underlying perception here that as an American you are somehow more privileged and have some expectations that you will be treated better than others. Having lived in USA for more than 10 years, I can tell you that there is a LOT of poverty in United States and most people are working class people and work hard to earn their living. They do not receive handouts or stimulus checks from the government like people do in Finland. Healthcare in America is not free. There is no subsidized housing. Hungry and homeless in America? There is no unemployment benefit. There is no shelter. You are lucky to get food stamps. Life is generally more difficult and demands consistent hard work. If anyone expects ZERO preferential treatment from others, it is probably the Americans.
Again, if you don't think whatever she says applies to you, that's great! Don't assume she doesn't have a reason to be saying those things though. And don't assume that reason has to be irrational hatred. Like someone said, "illegal alien" is a legal term, not a subjective opinion.
We know about your !"#¤% social welfare and social inequality. We've seen all the Michael Moore documentaries for starters. It doesn't seem easy, for sure. In a sense that makes you all the more vulnerable to getting out the frying pan and into the fire, though, as you'd be particularly eager to look for domicile elsewhere. Any information that you can gain about where exactly you would be the happiest to move, and where people would be the happiest to see you specifically moving there, with your particular abilities and personality, IS HUGELY IMPORTANT. Because of the hype, Finland is possibly the most "overrated" country, and so being a Debbie Downer falls upon us here more than many other places. You're still not taking in the reality of what many immigrants (the refugees) are used to in their home countries BTW. And that's the kind we see the most of.
We are not, by and large, anti-immigration. We have a worker deficit in some sectors as much as any aging first-world country.
It is also more difficult to give tailored information to each individually. I.e. which brewery could hire the OP's husband. She is free to ask, of course, but she'd have to be very lucky to even run into anyone who knows anyone. Contacting the companies directly is by far the best bet. The therapy I don't know how to even get started with. Like someone said, her qualifications may not be accepted here, but I'm also wondering why she couldn't do remote sessions with non-Finnish clients. So long as she pays her taxes to Finland, why would Finland have anything against that?
I guess you could think of it this way: If I told you "Hey, I wanna move to the USA. I'm a therapist and my husband can brew stuff. What's the best city for us to move into", would you REALLY be able to answer that? Presumably the best city to move into is the city that has the brewery that you have a work contract signed with.