True, but communication with a colleague in Finnish, would in most cases not require fluent Finnish.FinnGuyHelsinki wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:27 amAccording to a recent survey 40% of employers state that they don't have the capability (good enough language skills) to hire English-speaking employees. A news story (in Finnish): https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12174397
In an otherwise Finnish-speaking work place, it could create a major disruption if everyone had to start using English with one colleague.
If I take myself as an example again, I have had työharjoitelu with a company where the colleague I worked with (owner of the company) did not speak one word English. I was in Finland for 1 year and this työharjoitelu was part of my language integration course from TE-office. I had no problem communicating the essential work related issues. (Elevator Company). Remember that communication is 80% non-verbal...
So basically requesting fluent Finnish for a job is only needed for a lawyer or a judge. You see, the problem is not so much hiring people speaking English, the problem is the requirement of fluent Finnish in the job advertisement and the idea of the recruiter that it is essential for the job.
Event in healthcare the doctors from Estonia and nurses from zambia and spain, they really do NOT speak fluent Finnish. They get the job because there is such a big demand for doctors and nurses that they settle for sufficient Finnish instead.
The same is true for (as I said before) bus drivers and cleaners, the jobs Finns do not want to do anymore because they think the work sucks, the payment sucks, the times suck etc.
You will not see a former Minister of Justice, become a bus driver here in Finland. In the Netherlands there was one..Fred Teeven (hate the guy but that is personal) who went to drive a bus after a new government was installed and he was replaced by the next one.
The article also states and confirms again what I already said before to FinlandGirl:
Tutkimusten mukaan jo ulkomaalainen nimi aiheuttaa sen, että osa yrityksistä ei edes kutsu hakijaa haastatteluun, vaikka tämä olisi kuinka pätevä.
So I get it why but it does not make it right, and we all can see it is true that foreigner discrimination happens systematically, so why are Finns or other forum users denying it exists when it is even reported in the Finnish news...The majority of Finland is still in denial so no progress can be made.
It is like a love affair gone bad: first there is denial, then there is anger, then there is sadness, then there is acceptance. Finland is stuck at the denial phase, I have passed to acceptance long ago....however on the forum I do let myself get sucked into the anger phase at moments, when several deniers come by and spew their misconceptions again... Luckily I do not let myself get drawn into the sadness phase anymore, that is long passed.