Finns-friendly way of job application?

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:01 pm

debonaire wrote: and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor
expensive of 8 euros? must be a wicked party


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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by catchmeifucan » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:50 pm

debonaire wrote:
catchmeifucan wrote:
debonaire wrote: I would say its got nothing to do with your age or the way you look...its mostly to do with your skin color(brown) and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor and hence asked for your id...I would term it as being ignorant
That's the term I was searching for IGNORANT. Thanks, debonaire!!!
I WILL FURTHER EXPLAIN TO OTHERS:
I can understand that fact, that there are not many brown people in Finland. Out of which only a small fraction drinks. That added to the fact will buy a decent wine from Alko is close to impossible :) . I have faced this kind of situations before in other shops. I did not face it next time I visited the same shop rather they were very friendly next time. Basically, it is a dream that almost every Finn has that, every foreigner lives on benefits.
What can I say? I have my utmost sympathies for the IGNORANT ones.
Some one mentioned about knowing the system. Well, it is not about the system. Just that most Finns have not yet met a brown guy who can buy them beer or throw them a launch party just because he felt like celebrating. As a part of my work, I need to understand the culture of all the different nationalities I work with so, it is easier for me to understand. But, frankly I don't expect a local to understand that.
I know it very well this is how it is gonna be and so be it. I don't care about these small things. Time is luxury for me. But, I visit this forum as to have a open conversation which I am ready to have in person but, most of the Finns don't want to have. :lol:
As co-worker as work once mentioned, that his expression was "What that is?" when he first saw me. But, one day I helped him fix a big technical problem and then he felt like telling this to me. He now feels "Se on ruskea mies. Se mun esimies.". Lets see after 10 years what he thinks. :lol:
and i was thinking the same thing...that most of the finns think that foreigners live on benefits(thats a lot,isn't it) and especially if there is some brown guy buying something expensive,its gotta be a mistake...how on earth its possible...and thats why i used the term ignorance...as most of them do not know anything much beyond EU...especially about Asia...but lets wait and see how Asia is going to transform the world in a decade as this century truly belongs to Asia...
but again i say that my earlier comment was based on assumptions...so taht it doesn't offend anyone
Well, no one should get offended as I believe we are having a conversation with grown up men/women right!!! Moreover, this discussion pertains to reality as one see's it from the perspective of a local and a foreign. I personally, think it is important to have such discussions to develop more understanding between each other. Unfortunately, we cannot have open face to face discussion.

And guys, if you ever visit Oulu PM me we can meet for a drink. :thumbsup:

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Post by Upphew » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:09 pm

catchmeifucan wrote: I am arround 30 for your information. No one in their senses will ever consider me underaged. :lol: :lol: :lol:
By the way, there were 5 other people after me. They were not asked for an id.
See, I really don't care as long as they see my id let me go with my booooos. :D
By the way, I have been a customer of Alko last 3.5 years no one ever asked me for a id. Read what I said and answer. :D

EDIT: The real reason is not racism. Reason is jealousy. I have decided next time if guy doesn't ask for a id I will force him to see it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm about same age as you, have goatee and I was asked for the ID last time at Alko few months ago. Bought one bottle of beer and one bottle of cider. No big deal. Did you pay by cash or with plastic?

You should have seen this dude in his teens. He probably could buy hard liquor when he was 13!
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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:40 am

rinso wrote:
debonaire wrote: Trust me i do know a little bit about it...i don't speak the language that much but i do understand fair bit of it to get away in doing simple things..and i do a lot of socialising...and that too with finns...whom i know..actually they are the only people i know here...and i am also a member of the local football club..
and those things that everybody knows and nobody tells,i am fortunate enough to be aware of them as again my circle revolves around finns...
I am amazed. I live here much longer than you, I speak some of the language (even the local lingo :twisted: ), almost all my contacts are with Finns, I participate in their events (they even made me chairman of one of their activities) and still I discover new things all the time. Especially this forum is a great source of information about the way Finns think.
thats why i said i know a little bit...you probably know more than me...but as far as participating in activities is concerned,i think i have done a fair share during my stay of nearly 3 years...then i have a knack of learning new things....i have even gone to Confirmation ceremony quite recently which was a first...and it was a good experience which provided me an opportunity to learn something new..
besides i already know how the system works as i have undergone almost every phase that an immigrant can experience in finland...be it getting a residence permit,SSN,Kela card,bank account,employment office,internship,getting a job,tax office,getting married,paternity leave,driving school,buying a car,getting a loan from bank to buy a house,participating in activities,member of local finnish football club,etc...so yes i do know a bit how things work but again you may be knowing better than me...

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:42 am

Pursuivant wrote:
debonaire wrote:Learn to respect others
don't give me lip or I won't buy your kebab
say something new pizzaboy

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:45 am

Pursuivant wrote:
debonaire wrote: and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor
expensive of 8 euros? must be a wicked party
now you know the price also...i should have guessed that Alko is your home whether its in Oulu or in Helsinki...After all,liquor is a part of your quality Hank
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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by antstar » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:46 am

Pursuivant wrote:
antstar wrote:i am personally intrigued how Asia is going to transform the world?
they fornicate too much... then again in china theres now a huge problem they have about 130 boys to 100 girls, so eventually the population will even out.
So, by taking over the world, it is meant by suffication? :shock:
i'd say that would take longer than a decade!
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Post by debonaire » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:54 am

antstar wrote:
Pursuivant wrote:
antstar wrote:i am personally intrigued how Asia is going to transform the world?
they fornicate too much... then again in china theres now a huge problem they have about 130 boys to 100 girls, so eventually the population will even out.
So, by taking over the world, it is meant by suffication? :shock:
i'd say that would take longer than a decade!
Finland....
100 boys-200 mummis
because the girls are all taken away by foreigners :twisted:

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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:03 pm

debonaire wrote:
Pursuivant wrote:
debonaire wrote: and they wanted to check if you can really afford an expensive liquor
expensive of 8 euros? must be a wicked party
now you know the price also...i should have guessed that Alko is your home whether its in Oulu or in Helsinki...After all,liquor is a part of your quality Hank
unlike you I can read
catchmeifucan wrote: I went thought the stuff and bought a bottle of wine. When I went to pay (amount euro 8.5 i.e. less than 50 after which you need to show the id).

and even comprehend what I read
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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by Pursuivant » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:05 pm

debonaire wrote: because the girls are all taken away by foreigners
if they only would, but instead the women bring their summer men home to the freezer
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Re: Finns-friendly way of job application?

Post by debonaire » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:47 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
debonaire wrote: because the girls are all taken away by foreigners
if they only would, but instead the women bring their summer men home to the freezer
no wonder Finland is getting warmer...hardly any snow during winters...so these summer men are actually causing global warming in Finland...

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Post by Pursuivant » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:50 pm

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Post by onkko » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:52 pm

debonaire wrote:
Pursuivant wrote:
debonaire wrote: because the girls are all taken away by foreigners
if they only would, but instead the women bring their summer men home to the freezer
no wonder Finland is getting warmer...hardly any snow during winters...so these summer men are actually causing global warming in Finland...
No, lack of pirates is causing it.

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Post by Aarav » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:17 pm

Karhunkoski wrote:
Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:33 pm
I see it less as Finland trying to build a threshold to keep out the parasites, and more that Finland is actually competing for "quality immigrants". Unless it tries harder to encourage this group and help them integrate, it's Finland who misses out on getting the "stars" to move here.

If Finland adopts Tiwaz' "learn the language or sod off" attitude, when talking to educated, skilled professionals, they will mostly reply, "Fine, no problem at all, I'll just take my skills elswhere" :D
Your perspective on Finland's immigration policy is insightful. Prioritizing "quality immigrants" and facilitating their integration is crucial for mutual benefit. A balanced approach that values skills and encourages integration without undue hurdles can indeed attract and retain valuable contributors, ensuring both personal success and national enrichment.Nrega


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