Applying for Citizenship 2024

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TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:44 am

Maaria wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:14 am
TUserFin wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:53 pm

It's something like 30-40% chance that you will get it by the end of summer, but with the current citizenship application chaos, might be even much lower. Expect 21 months, and have a plan just in case (renew PR etc).
May I ask what is the current citizenship application chaos is about?
More complicated laws


It was published yesterday on YLE that in 2022 there were around 13000 citizenship applications, and in 2023 already 18000 applications. The reason for previous years is corona - somehow it accelerated applications (maybe people had enough time to study Finnish at home), in 2023 it is because of coming law changes in 2024-2026:
8 years to get citezenship, new YKi and Civic tests, dual citezenship abolishment and other smaller changes: income requirement, security assesment etc.



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Maaria
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Maaria » Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:58 am

TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:44 am
Maaria wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:14 am
TUserFin wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:53 pm

It's something like 30-40% chance that you will get it by the end of summer, but with the current citizenship application chaos, might be even much lower. Expect 21 months, and have a plan just in case (renew PR etc).
May I ask what is the current citizenship application chaos is about?
More complicated laws


It was published yesterday on YLE that in 2022 there were around 13000 citizenship applications, and in 2023 already 18000 applications. The reason for previous years is corona - somehow it accelerated applications (maybe people had enough time to study Finnish at home), in 2023 it is because of coming law changes in 2024-2026:
8 years to get citezenship, new YKi and Civic tests, dual citezenship abolishment and other smaller changes: income requirement, security assesment etc.
But people who are applying now are not subjected to these laws, right?

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:19 pm

Maaria wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:58 am
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:44 am
Maaria wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:14 am


May I ask what is the current citizenship application chaos is about?
More complicated laws


It was published yesterday on YLE that in 2022 there were around 13000 citizenship applications, and in 2023 already 18000 applications. The reason for previous years is corona - somehow it accelerated applications (maybe people had enough time to study Finnish at home), in 2023 it is because of coming law changes in 2024-2026:
8 years to get citezenship, new YKi and Civic tests, dual citezenship abolishment and other smaller changes: income requirement, security assesment etc.
But people who are applying now are not subjected to these laws, right?
In civilized contiries they should not be... but with current political situation you never know...

Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:01 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:38 pm
mipilvi wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:24 pm
It's so weird I got on stage 2 since November and still no decision. :((..
Applied in July 2023
Current queue number 44xx
Interesting how it works. What is exact day you applied? I applied 4th of July 2023, still stage 1 and queue 47xx
I applied 19th of June 2023, still stage 1 and queue 4501. Two of my friends who applied on July 2023 got their decisions on November. I sent mail to migri and they told me I have to wait for 29 months. Honestly, 29 months is a long time.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by ana_fi » Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:44 pm

Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:01 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:38 pm
mipilvi wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:24 pm
It's so weird I got on stage 2 since November and still no decision. :((..
Applied in July 2023
Current queue number 44xx
Interesting how it works. What is exact day you applied? I applied 4th of July 2023, still stage 1 and queue 47xx
I applied 19th of June 2023, still stage 1 and queue 4501. Two of my friends who applied on July 2023 got their decisions on November. I sent mail to migri and they told me I have to wait for 29 months. Honestly, 29 months is a long time.
Yes, I applied on the same day and just seen that they updated the processing time to 29 months. 2.5 years of wait.. Completely insane for someone who works here, brought their workplace in Finland on purpose, pays taxes and cannot perform their job properly while waiting (the need for extensive international travel along with other aspects). Meanwhile, some of those who don't work, get it in 5-6 months..

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:58 pm

ana_fi wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:44 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:01 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:38 pm


Interesting how it works. What is exact day you applied? I applied 4th of July 2023, still stage 1 and queue 47xx
I applied 19th of June 2023, still stage 1 and queue 4501. Two of my friends who applied on July 2023 got their decisions on November. I sent mail to migri and they told me I have to wait for 29 months. Honestly, 29 months is a long time.
Yes, I applied on the same day and just seen that they updated the processing time to 29 months. 2.5 years of wait.. Completely insane for someone who works here, brought their workplace in Finland on purpose, pays taxes and cannot perform their job properly while waiting (the need for extensive international travel along with other aspects). Meanwhile, some of those who don't work, get it in 5-6 months..

You scared me guys. It is still 21 months for those who came here is valid residence permirt and 29 otherwise - this was on migribä website alrady for some time

Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:58 pm
ana_fi wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:44 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:01 pm


I applied 19th of June 2023, still stage 1 and queue 4501. Two of my friends who applied on July 2023 got their decisions on November. I sent mail to migri and they told me I have to wait for 29 months. Honestly, 29 months is a long time.
Yes, I applied on the same day and just seen that they updated the processing time to 29 months. 2.5 years of wait.. Completely insane for someone who works here, brought their workplace in Finland on purpose, pays taxes and cannot perform their job properly while waiting (the need for extensive international travel along with other aspects). Meanwhile, some of those who don't work, get it in 5-6 months..

You scared me guys. It is still 21 months for those who came here is valid residence permirt and 29 otherwise - this was on migribä website alrady for some time
When I put my information here (https://migri.fi/sv/behandlingstider), it shows the processing time between 6 to 21 months, but here (https://migri.fi/sv/medborgarskap-for-vuxna), you can see they wrote 29 months. Also, when Migri replied to my mail they said the processing time is 29 months. So, maybe they need to update their system or something.

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm

Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:58 pm
ana_fi wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:44 pm


Yes, I applied on the same day and just seen that they updated the processing time to 29 months. 2.5 years of wait.. Completely insane for someone who works here, brought their workplace in Finland on purpose, pays taxes and cannot perform their job properly while waiting (the need for extensive international travel along with other aspects). Meanwhile, some of those who don't work, get it in 5-6 months..

You scared me guys. It is still 21 months for those who came here is valid residence permirt and 29 otherwise - this was on migribä website alrady for some time
When I put my information here (https://migri.fi/sv/behandlingstider), it shows the processing time between 6 to 21 months, but here (https://migri.fi/sv/medborgarskap-for-vuxna), you can see they wrote 29 months. Also, when Migri replied to my mail they said the processing time is 29 months. So, maybe they need to update their system or something.
29 months is for those who came without permit on tourist visa. When you asked migri did you provide them your dairy number? And did you come with a permit? I asked them 2 werks ago for my case and they said 21 months. During that time these 29 months eere also on their website. Maybe they just told you max possible time if you did not give them dairy number

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:23 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:58 pm



You scared me guys. It is still 21 months for those who came here is valid residence permirt and 29 otherwise - this was on migribä website alrady for some time
When I put my information here (https://migri.fi/sv/behandlingstider), it shows the processing time between 6 to 21 months, but here (https://migri.fi/sv/medborgarskap-for-vuxna), you can see they wrote 29 months. Also, when Migri replied to my mail they said the processing time is 29 months. So, maybe they need to update their system or something.
29 months is for those who came without permit on tourist visa. When you asked migri did you provide them your dairy number? And did you come with a permit? I asked them 2 werks ago for my case and they said 21 months. During that time these 29 months eere also on their website. Maybe they just told you max possible time if you did not give them dairy number
Yes, I told them my diary number. I came to Finland 8 years ago with residence permit based on study. I sent mail to Migri January 16th.

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:26 pm

Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:23 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm


When I put my information here (https://migri.fi/sv/behandlingstider), it shows the processing time between 6 to 21 months, but here (https://migri.fi/sv/medborgarskap-for-vuxna), you can see they wrote 29 months. Also, when Migri replied to my mail they said the processing time is 29 months. So, maybe they need to update their system or something.
29 months is for those who came without permit on tourist visa. When you asked migri did you provide them your dairy number? And did you come with a permit? I asked them 2 werks ago for my case and they said 21 months. During that time these 29 months eere also on their website. Maybe they just told you max possible time if you did not give them dairy number
Yes, I told them my diary number. I came to Finland 8 years ago with residence permit based on study. I sent mail to Migri January 16th.
So you can clarify it with them. Just tell them that processing time checker tells you 21 mobths, why they say 29?

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:32 pm

Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:23 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm


When I put my information here (https://migri.fi/sv/behandlingstider), it shows the processing time between 6 to 21 months, but here (https://migri.fi/sv/medborgarskap-for-vuxna), you can see they wrote 29 months. Also, when Migri replied to my mail they said the processing time is 29 months. So, maybe they need to update their system or something.
29 months is for those who came without permit on tourist visa. When you asked migri did you provide them your dairy number? And did you come with a permit? I asked them 2 werks ago for my case and they said 21 months. During that time these 29 months eere also on their website. Maybe they just told you max possible time if you did not give them dairy number
Yes, I told them my diary number. I came to Finland 8 years ago with residence permit based on study. I sent mail to Migri January 16th.
Btw I just checked my mailbox, they told me 21 months on Jan 16 as well

Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:40 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:26 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:23 pm
TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm


29 months is for those who came without permit on tourist visa. When you asked migri did you provide them your dairy number? And did you come with a permit? I asked them 2 werks ago for my case and they said 21 months. During that time these 29 months eere also on their website. Maybe they just told you max possible time if you did not give them dairy number
Yes, I told them my diary number. I came to Finland 8 years ago with residence permit based on study. I sent mail to Migri January 16th.
So you can clarify it with them. Just tell them that processing time checker tells you 21 mobths, why they say 29?
I sent them mail and waiting for response. I will let you know what they say.

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:42 pm

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I sent them mail and waiting for response. I will let you know what they say.
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No niin :thumbsup:

doandu
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by doandu » Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:49 pm

Has anyone who applied in January 2023 received a request for additional information recently? I recently got an email asking for travel information, but my progress didn't change, still stayed in step 1

ana_fi
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by ana_fi » Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:41 pm

TUserFin wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:58 pm
ana_fi wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:44 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:01 pm


I applied 19th of June 2023, still stage 1 and queue 4501. Two of my friends who applied on July 2023 got their decisions on November. I sent mail to migri and they told me I have to wait for 29 months. Honestly, 29 months is a long time.
Yes, I applied on the same day and just seen that they updated the processing time to 29 months. 2.5 years of wait.. Completely insane for someone who works here, brought their workplace in Finland on purpose, pays taxes and cannot perform their job properly while waiting (the need for extensive international travel along with other aspects). Meanwhile, some of those who don't work, get it in 5-6 months..

You scared me guys. It is still 21 months for those who came here is valid residence permirt and 29 otherwise - this was on migribä website alrady for some time
The calculator was earlier giving me 21 months and now it shows 29 when I put my application date.. I pretty much suspect they are extending the processing period. I chose 'came in Finland with the permit' to check the time even though technically I came without since I am working as a specialist. For this type you are allowed to come to Finland on tourist visa and start working while applying. Never understood this criterion in the calculator, I don't think it's correct as it does seem like it would refer to refugees and people without a valid visa or passport.


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