Applying for Citizenship 2024

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another_one

Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by another_one » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:16 pm

No_doo wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:51 pm
I did point out everything. Even I have sent them a screenshot from the processing time calculator. Then it came back with a response from the citizenship team telling that the estimate time to process my application is 29 months. Then they explained that there are different queues for the processing of the citizenship application, where it depends whether you come with a residence permit or not .. etc.
So it was really annoying that I was telling in the email that I came with residence permit and I have a national passport, so why do you say that I am in the longest queue. Then they replied with this nonsense response.

And there is no reason to assign my application to a longer queue. As mentioned, I came with a student residence permit then shifted to work permit after graduation.
Even I have consulted a lawyer and they have checked my application. However, he pointed out that there is nothing to do except to wait, otherwise, migri will give the same response. No one knows what’s the reason. Even my friends who have the same condition as me, and coming from the same country, some of them got it within the short queue and others are still waiting.

It is annoying how migri works to be honest.
Wow, that is weird.
I wonder whether it is single stupid mistake by them or it is intended thing which they try to apply to many applications to stretch the expected processing time as much as possible.



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No_doo
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by No_doo » Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:25 pm

another_one wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:16 pm
No_doo wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:51 pm
I did point out everything. Even I have sent them a screenshot from the processing time calculator. Then it came back with a response from the citizenship team telling that the estimate time to process my application is 29 months. Then they explained that there are different queues for the processing of the citizenship application, where it depends whether you come with a residence permit or not .. etc.
So it was really annoying that I was telling in the email that I came with residence permit and I have a national passport, so why do you say that I am in the longest queue. Then they replied with this nonsense response.

And there is no reason to assign my application to a longer queue. As mentioned, I came with a student residence permit then shifted to work permit after graduation.
Even I have consulted a lawyer and they have checked my application. However, he pointed out that there is nothing to do except to wait, otherwise, migri will give the same response. No one knows what’s the reason. Even my friends who have the same condition as me, and coming from the same country, some of them got it within the short queue and others are still waiting.

It is annoying how migri works to be honest.
Wow, that is weird.
I wonder whether it is single stupid mistake by them or it is intended thing which they try to apply to many applications to stretch the expected processing time as much as possible.
I don’t have any idea. And as said, the lawyer said it is very weird as well and they couldn’t understand why Migri does that. In addition, he mentioned that the legal window to get them explain anything is after they give decision on the application not before, or after they exceed the maximum processing time for citizenship applications in general, which is 30 months now. Otherwise, they will give the same response because we didn’t exceed the maximum processing time 😭
Migri’s life 😭😭
Let’s hope that everyone here gets their decision soon and I get mine soon as well. Then there won’t be a need to wait for 30 months 😅

leo1234
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by leo1234 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:21 pm

One of guy i know , he submitted his application on June 2022 got his decision last week.

broccoli
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by broccoli » Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:55 pm

leo1234 wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:21 pm
One of guy i know , he submitted his application on June 2022 got his decision last week.
Thanks for the info! this aligns with median diary numbers processed last week

mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:22 pm

Hi guys 😀

Just got the purpose of letting you know, I am waiting for my 20th month now 💪🏻

Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:42 pm

mamutti wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:42 pm
Hi guys

It is interesting that in a new plan the deadline for processing all citizenship applications in maximum 1 year is going to be postponed to the year 2028. In previous documents, it was stated that the deadline must have been achieved in 2021, 2022 and 2023 (and it hasn’t been), but looking that it’s not possible to achieve that anymore, so they have postponed that to the year 2028.

Thanks for the best customer experience, Migri ❤️

https://migri.fi/documents/5202425/5915 ... 1370317973
Hi, sorry I did not fully understand what you mean. Does Migri want to postpone all citizenship applications in 2021, 2022 and 2023 to the year 2028?

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by std123 » Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:03 pm

Has anyone here applied first, and then had their spouse apply for the citizenship application? I want to know what the chances are of receiving the decision together in this case. Has anyone experienced this situation?

mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:48 am

Farhadjavan wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:42 pm
mamutti wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:42 pm
Hi guys

It is interesting that in a new plan the deadline for processing all citizenship applications in maximum 1 year is going to be postponed to the year 2028. In previous documents, it was stated that the deadline must have been achieved in 2021, 2022 and 2023 (and it hasn’t been), but looking that it’s not possible to achieve that anymore, so they have postponed that to the year 2028.

Thanks for the best customer experience, Migri ❤️

https://migri.fi/documents/5202425/5915 ... 1370317973
Hi, sorry I did not fully understand what you mean. Does Migri want to postpone all citizenship applications in 2021, 2022 and 2023 to the year 2028?
Hi ☺️

Sorry if I wrote it not super clear, it was super quick note 😂 But before that, they had an initial target to process ALL citizenship applications in 1 year. And this target wasn’t met in 2021, 2022 and 2023, so now they don’t have this target anymore for this year, so their new target is to process at least 65% of applications in 1 year this year, and then it will increase to 100% in 2028. So it means that while they were trying to meet this one-year processing target, they have failed to do so for many times, so the target has been postponed to 2028 🥲

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:52 am

std123 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 8:03 pm
Has anyone here applied first, and then had their spouse apply for the citizenship application? I want to know what the chances are of receiving the decision together in this case. Has anyone experienced this situation?
Yes, somebody wrote about exactly this situation earlier in this thread. Work your way back through the 41 pages and you will find it. A quarter through the year and we're up to 41 pages already!!

As I recall they processed the cases together and the second person who applied (months later) was given citizenship much earlier than a standalone application.

Xwish
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Xwish » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:33 pm

Hi,

Where can I see my queue number? Or does it only appear after some time? I only applied in 3.2024

So far I only see my diary number and customer number.

Sorry to ask this question if it has already been answered, I could not find the response in the old posts.

Thank you!
Last edited by Xwish on Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

ehab101
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by ehab101 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:44 pm

Hi, does anyone have any rough idea, what kind of applications are the ones that get processed in 6 month-ish, and what kind of application gets processed with the much longer 24 month waiting time? Is it based on nationality, income-related or something else?

Thanks in advance for any insight. :)

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:18 pm

Uskomaton wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:41 pm
ehab101 wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:44 pm
Hi, does anyone have any rough idea, what kind of applications are the ones that get processed in 6 month-ish, and what kind of application gets processed with the much longer 24 month waiting time? Is it based on nationality, income-related or something else?

Thanks in advance for any insight. :)
Based on the comments from appliers, longer for refugees, international protection people and shorter for people who came here with a passport and permit and have no criminal record or unpaid taxes etc
For people you mentioned is 30 months.
For people who work and came with permit is 7 or 23 months. It is completely random and no logic. I came from Europe, live 8 years here, have stable job and very high income with all taxes paid, my family has finnish citezenship already.... and Im waiting 9 moths already on stage I

mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:16 am

Hi guys

In the 2023 thread I have shared with you that I have sent a complaint to the Oikeuskansleri about the processing times (back then I was 15 months waiting). So today I have got the decision from them that says that Migri has assigned my application to the “demanding” queue based on the fact that my trips abroad and their impact on the time lived should be considered better. However, Oikeuskansleri has decided, that

“In the context of legal supervision practices, it is generally considered that an authority cannot validly invoke a congested work situation or insufficient resources as a reason for delays in handling matters. Instead, it must strive to ensure that it has the resources and effective work methods allocated for the proper management of tasks in any given situation. The authority should influence its own operations through efficient work management, organization of labor, development of operational methods, and other available means to improve workflow, so that the law can be followed and matters can be processed without undue delay.
The appropriateness of processing times is assessed on a case-by-case basis, depending on the nature of the matter and the individual circumstances associated with it. Attention is paid to factors such as the complexity, difficulty, and number of actions required for processing the matter, as well as whether there have been stages during which the matter has not progressed.
Based on the available information, the processing of the complainant’s citizenship application has been delayed. The delay is partly due to the procedure of the Immigration Service. The one-year processing time target set by the Immigration Service has been clearly exceeded in this case. Although the Citizenship Act does not define a maximum processing time for citizenship applications, it must be taken into account that citizenship has a significant legal impact on an individual. For example, many participation rights and certain other rights are directly linked to citizenship. When it is a matter of a legally very significant decision from the individual’s perspective, the authority must also pay special attention to the expeditious processing of the matter.”

And the actions are as follows:

“I draw the Immigration Service’s attention to the compliance with the provision concerning the expeditious processing of matters.
I request the Immigration Service to inform me with specific details by no later than September 20, 2024, on how the processing times for citizenship applications have developed in recent years, whether the processing times have been shortened by the actions mentioned by the Immigration Service, and what additional measures may have been planned to further reduce the processing times.”

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by broccoli » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:27 am

mamutti wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:16 am
“I draw the Immigration Service’s attention to the compliance with the provision concerning the expeditious processing of matters.
I request the Immigration Service to inform me with specific details by no later than September 20, 2024, on how the processing times for citizenship applications have developed in recent years, whether the processing times have been shortened by the actions mentioned by the Immigration Service, and what additional measures may have been planned to further reduce the processing times.”
Cool, Migri will answer in their usual manner :D

How will it affect your own case? Did they send something to Migri from your name?

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:37 am

mamutti wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:16 am
Hi guys

In the 2023 thread I have shared with you that I have sent a complaint to the Oikeuskansleri about the processing times (back then I was 15 months waiting). So today I have got the decision from them that says that Migri has assigned my application to the “demanding” queue based on the fact that my trips abroad and their impact on the time lived should be considered better. However, Oikeuskansleri has decided, that
What the heck is the demanding queue, and how fast they promise to process your application? And what about your trips abroad? Did you travel for a very long time? Does it mean that whoever travels a lot gets into this demanding queue?


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