Yeah stage 1jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 5:07 amIs it still stage 1 ?
That’s totally unfair from Migri.
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Hey, Did you contact Migri or did they ask you for additional information ?jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:28 pmSure It moved to stage 2 actually on 23/04/2024.MCS wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:59 pmI think that it is normal/many cases are similar to yours, you do not need to panic. And it would be more helpful to state dates instead of "last Tuesday" and to mention the date at which you applied/visited Migri or when your dairy number is generated (if no Migri visit is required). So one can compare your case and give you a better opinion.jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:20 amHey guys
my application moved to stage 2 last Tuesday. I thought that I would receive the decision on the same day but still haven't received it yet. is this normal ?? my diary number is 133XX/310/2023.
what could they be investigating ? I'm from Egypt. I have been living in Finland for 7 years now. I have my job and I completed a degree here. is common that stage 2 could take a long time ?
I received the diary number at late of October 2023, and I haven't visited migri. enterfinland told me that I don't need to do so.
I have lived until now 4 years B. and 3 years A.
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They haven’t asked me for any additional information and that’s the weird part here. It moved to stage 2 then it stayed.MCS wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:52 amHey, Did you contact Migri or did they ask you for additional information ?jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:28 pmSure It moved to stage 2 actually on 23/04/2024.MCS wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:59 pm
I think that it is normal/many cases are similar to yours, you do not need to panic. And it would be more helpful to state dates instead of "last Tuesday" and to mention the date at which you applied/visited Migri or when your dairy number is generated (if no Migri visit is required). So one can compare your case and give you a better opinion.
I received the diary number at late of October 2023, and I haven't visited migri. enterfinland told me that I don't need to do so.
I have lived until now 4 years B. and 3 years A.
I haven’t contacted Migri yet. But I will contact them if nothing changes in four weeks.
I think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.
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The migri web pages are terrible the way they explain the length of residency needed.jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:26 pmI think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.
One page says that everyone must have language skills and 5 years residency and another page says that if you have language skills the residency is only 4 years!! but the page earlier said that EVERYONE must have language skills, so where did the 5 years come from!!
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Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
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Yep this is really confusing. I know friends who got their decisions while living 4 years.riku2 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:31 pmThe migri web pages are terrible the way they explain the length of residency needed.jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:26 pmI think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.
One page says that everyone must have language skills and 5 years residency and another page says that if you have language skills the residency is only 4 years!! but the page earlier said that EVERYONE must have language skills, so where did the 5 years come from!!
but my brother when he went to migri for identification to submit his citizenship application. the officer told him that it's impossible to get the decision in 4 years period of residence and they will wait until 5 years is passed. and that's what really happened. they waited until he completed the 5 years for the decision to come not sure if this is a coincidence or based on what the officer told him.
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That’s great in all cases, It will reduce waiting timesquillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
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Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.quillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe.



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Is it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?Auringon_kukka wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pmGood news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.quillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe.![]()
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Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.
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Wonder if there will be people who get decision almost instantly after application (as it is automatic, should be super fast)quillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Maybe just_passing_by will notice that in the new data
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Tbh, would be nice if all of the cases could be done through automationAuringon_kukka wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pmGood news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.quillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
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Be careful before you do this. Cause, it is mentioned that - if they don't need to contact other authority then it will be automatic. But I think in all cases of outside of EU applications they will do the security check with applicant's home country authority. But I'm not sure and let's see what happens.jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:44 pmIs it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?Auringon_kukka wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pmGood news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.quillcentaur wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pmMigri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
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Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.
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that's correct let's wait and see.farhad.void wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:50 pmBe careful before you do this. Cause, it is mentioned that - if they don't need to contact other authority then it will be automatic. But I think in all cases of outside of EU applications they will do the security check with applicant's home country authority. But I'm not sure and let's see what happens.jonathan_09 wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:44 pmIs it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?Auringon_kukka wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm
Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.
As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe.![]()
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Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.
probably we will hear from people who will apply in next weeks.
so then we can gather some statistics. what percentage of applicants get automated decisions and their country of origins extraa.
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Also, we can see from the official statistics website, whether the number of processed applications has grown in according with the submitted onesjust_passing_by wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 pmYeah, it is also interesting to me whether I will find anything.
If an application is processed instantly then it might be so that an application is not even appearing in the Kamu chatbot. Such thing will be harder to spot.
But let's see. I will collect the data on weekend and check if there is something unusual.
I bet that we won't see any significant difference this week, but maybe the next week will show some changes.