Applying for Citizenship 2024

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mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Wed May 01, 2024 11:05 am

jonathan_09 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 5:07 am
mamutti wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 1:46 am
Also, just for the sake of the “documenting” this, my 21th month of waiting has begun 😁
Is it still stage 1 ?
That’s totally unfair from Migri.
Yeah stage 1



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MCS
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by MCS » Thu May 02, 2024 11:52 am

jonathan_09 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:28 pm
MCS wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:59 pm
jonathan_09 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:20 am
Hey guys
my application moved to stage 2 last Tuesday. I thought that I would receive the decision on the same day but still haven't received it yet. is this normal ?? my diary number is 133XX/310/2023.
what could they be investigating ? I'm from Egypt. I have been living in Finland for 7 years now. I have my job and I completed a degree here. is common that stage 2 could take a long time ?
I think that it is normal/many cases are similar to yours, you do not need to panic. And it would be more helpful to state dates instead of "last Tuesday" and to mention the date at which you applied/visited Migri or when your dairy number is generated (if no Migri visit is required). So one can compare your case and give you a better opinion.
Sure It moved to stage 2 actually on 23/04/2024.
I received the diary number at late of October 2023, and I haven't visited migri. enterfinland told me that I don't need to do so.
I have lived until now 4 years B. and 3 years A.
Hey, Did you contact Migri or did they ask you for additional information ?

jonathan_09
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jonathan_09 » Thu May 02, 2024 12:26 pm

MCS wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 11:52 am
jonathan_09 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:28 pm
MCS wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:59 pm


I think that it is normal/many cases are similar to yours, you do not need to panic. And it would be more helpful to state dates instead of "last Tuesday" and to mention the date at which you applied/visited Migri or when your dairy number is generated (if no Migri visit is required). So one can compare your case and give you a better opinion.
Sure It moved to stage 2 actually on 23/04/2024.

I received the diary number at late of October 2023, and I haven't visited migri. enterfinland told me that I don't need to do so.
I have lived until now 4 years B. and 3 years A.
Hey, Did you contact Migri or did they ask you for additional information ?
They haven’t asked me for any additional information and that’s the weird part here. It moved to stage 2 then it stayed.
I haven’t contacted Migri yet. But I will contact them if nothing changes in four weeks.
I think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Thu May 02, 2024 2:31 pm

jonathan_09 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 12:26 pm
I think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.
The migri web pages are terrible the way they explain the length of residency needed.
One page says that everyone must have language skills and 5 years residency and another page says that if you have language skills the residency is only 4 years!! but the page earlier said that EVERYONE must have language skills, so where did the 5 years come from!!

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm

Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship

jonathan_09
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jonathan_09 » Thu May 02, 2024 2:55 pm

riku2 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:31 pm
jonathan_09 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 12:26 pm
I think they are waiting until I complete exactly the 5 year residency because if I count half B of my residency and full A. It’s actually around 4 years and 11 months.
The migri web pages are terrible the way they explain the length of residency needed.
One page says that everyone must have language skills and 5 years residency and another page says that if you have language skills the residency is only 4 years!! but the page earlier said that EVERYONE must have language skills, so where did the 5 years come from!!
Yep this is really confusing. I know friends who got their decisions while living 4 years.
but my brother when he went to migri for identification to submit his citizenship application. the officer told him that it's impossible to get the decision in 4 years period of residence and they will wait until 5 years is passed. and that's what really happened. they waited until he completed the 5 years for the decision to come not sure if this is a coincidence or based on what the officer told him.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jonathan_09 » Thu May 02, 2024 3:19 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
That’s great in all cases, It will reduce waiting times

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Auringon_kukka » Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.

As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe. :lol: :lol: :lol:

jonathan_09
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jonathan_09 » Thu May 02, 2024 3:44 pm

Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.

As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?
Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.

broccoli
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by broccoli » Thu May 02, 2024 3:51 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Wonder if there will be people who get decision almost instantly after application (as it is automatic, should be super fast)

Maybe just_passing_by will notice that in the new data

mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Thu May 02, 2024 4:42 pm

Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.

As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tbh, would be nice if all of the cases could be done through automation 😁 But unfortunately, it’s not the case

farhad.void
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by farhad.void » Thu May 02, 2024 6:50 pm

jonathan_09 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:44 pm
Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 2:50 pm
Migri started automatic decision on some Citizenship applications. Too bad it's only for applications submitted from today. No idea why they just wouldn't run the existing applications on that algorithm. Hopefully this means it will be quicker to get decision though as some would be under automatic processing already. https://migri.fi/en/implementation-deci ... itizenship
Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.

As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?
Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.
Be careful before you do this. Cause, it is mentioned that - if they don't need to contact other authority then it will be automatic. But I think in all cases of outside of EU applications they will do the security check with applicant's home country authority. But I'm not sure and let's see what happens.

jonathan_09
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by jonathan_09 » Thu May 02, 2024 7:19 pm

farhad.void wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 6:50 pm
jonathan_09 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:44 pm
Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:34 pm


Good news, and it's about time. This should come as welcome news to applicants from this day forward.

As you say, too bad it can't be applied retroactively, say to 2022 maybe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is it possible to cancel my current application and submit another application ?
Of course not thinking to do this now but if the application prolongs to other several months.
Be careful before you do this. Cause, it is mentioned that - if they don't need to contact other authority then it will be automatic. But I think in all cases of outside of EU applications they will do the security check with applicant's home country authority. But I'm not sure and let's see what happens.
that's correct let's wait and see.
probably we will hear from people who will apply in next weeks.
so then we can gather some statistics. what percentage of applicants get automated decisions and their country of origins extraa.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 pm

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mamutti
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by mamutti » Thu May 02, 2024 10:34 pm

just_passing_by wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 9:01 pm
broccoli wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 3:51 pm
Wonder if there will be people who get decision almost instantly after application (as it is automatic, should be super fast)

Maybe just_passing_by will notice that in the new data
Yeah, it is also interesting to me whether I will find anything.
If an application is processed instantly then it might be so that an application is not even appearing in the Kamu chatbot. Such thing will be harder to spot.

But let's see. I will collect the data on weekend and check if there is something unusual.
I bet that we won't see any significant difference this week, but maybe the next week will show some changes.
Also, we can see from the official statistics website, whether the number of processed applications has grown in according with the submitted ones


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