Applying for Citizenship 2024

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Guess.who
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Guess.who » Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:05 pm

It seems it might take a while for me to receive the citizenship application decision, as six months have passed.

My permanent residence permit's time period is going to be fulfilled by the end of this month, and I am thinking of applying for it.

Do you have any idea about the waiting time period for entrepreneurship PR?

Any suggestions? Thanks!



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smo
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by smo » Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:11 pm

wb26 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:53 am
smo wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:32 am
smo wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:20 pm


Hi! I applied on 7th of January and today they received my application and I got a diary number, but no queue number.
An update on this: Now I have my queue number as well. It is something like 88xx
Amazing! I hope for fast processing for your application!
I think you will hear from them soon about these numbers. I hope the same for you!

Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:08 am

Hi all, hope you are doing well. I have a question regarding my citizenship application. Three of my friends and I applied for Finnish citizenship on June 2023 (7 months ago), and they got their citizenship decision on November 2023 (in five months), but for me, I am still waiting for process. My queue number is 4615. My question is that, is there a high chance that the waiting time goes for something like 20 months or more? Thanks.
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:56 am

just_passing_by wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:04 am
TUserFin wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:21 am
just_passing_by, my application during this night moved from 491x to 49xx, basically a drop by 12 points. When I had >5000 queue, it was moving daily by 20-25.
IMO, nothing will really change in a matter of week.
Also, I would measure processing speed of your application over a multiple days/weeks, not over a single day. Because if you check some single day the processing speed may fluctuate.
TUserFin wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:21 am
Now, I assume, half of processing is done for applications below 5000. Do you see it on your graph?
Sorry, I do not understand what you mean.
If you want to know how far your application in the queue then you should just check the "slider" which Kamu chatbot shows you. It is pretty accurate in terms of queue position.
However, if you application at, for example, 50% after ~6 months of waiting, this does not mean that the rest 50% will be processed over next ~6 months. It will take much longer.

Otherwise, here is a peek into this week's data:
Total processed ~157 applications
Applications processed with queue number >4000: 122
Which is 78% of total processed applications
Migri processed applications roughly around 9300-9600/310/2023 diary numbers

I enlarged processed applications to make them easier to see:
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Hi, could you please let me know where did you get this graph?

riku2
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:43 am

Farhadjavan wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:56 am
Hi, could you please let me know where did you get this graph?
It is answered earlier in this thread. Go backwards and you will find the answer.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:51 am

Farhadjavan wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:08 am
Hi all, hope you are doing well. I have a question regarding my citizenship application. Three of my friends and I applied for Finnish citizenship on June 2023 (7 months ago), and they got their citizenship decision on November 2023 (in five months), but for me, I am still waiting for process. My queue number is 4615. My question is that, is there a high chance that the waiting time goes for something like 20 months or more? Thanks.
I have 4900x position, and queue moves below me by 12 applications daily. When I was above 5000 it was moving by 22 positions around. So, I would say 4000+ processinf still have a good chance of processing within 1.5 month

TUserFin
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:35 am

just_passing_by, can it be the case that people who apploed online bit visited service point later on are given priority? i.e. because submitted application has some smaller serial number etc?

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:19 pm

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:25 pm

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Farhadjavan
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Farhadjavan » Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:57 pm

just_passing_by wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:19 pm
Farhadjavan wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:08 am
Hi all, hope you are doing well. I have a question regarding my citizenship application. Three of my friends and I applied for Finnish citizenship on June 2023 (7 months ago), and they got their citizenship decision on November 2023 (in five months), but for me, I am still waiting for process. My queue number is 4615. My question is that, is there a high chance that the waiting time goes for something like 20 months or more? Thanks.
Hi,

Do not want to upset you, but I think that Migri skipped you for some reason.
I would assume that your application will take some time to process. Don't know if it will be 20 months, bot probably not soon.
Thanks for the reply. Could you please let me know where did you get the plot that you posted earlier? Someone told me in a previous posts I can find the answer but I couldn't 😞.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by just_passing_by » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:46 am

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smo
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by smo » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:49 am

I am at the very beginning of the whole process, and the wait is already very depressing. The queue just moved 6 people since yesterday. How is it even possible that only 6 applications were processed in whole Finland (I know there are other queues based on different application types), but still? Maybe I should just forget about the application and come back within 6 months, even 1 year later to check the progress :?

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by riku2 » Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:58 am

I am at the very beginning of the whole process, and the wait is already very depressing.
Try not to give up hope. You do not have to reach #1 in the queue to be awarded citizenship. It's like boarding a plane and somebody walks along the queue and checks your documents in advance of getting to the desk. If your application is easy to handle then they are currently giving citizenship to those in the high 4000's queue position.

On the other hand I applied at the end of last year and based on the speed over the past two weeks, it will be 5 years before I reach queue position 5000!!!

smo
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by smo » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:29 am

riku2 wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:58 am
I am at the very beginning of the whole process, and the wait is already very depressing.
Try not to give up hope. You do not have to reach #1 in the queue to be awarded citizenship. It's like boarding a plane and somebody walks along the queue and checks your documents in advance of getting to the desk. If your application is easy to handle then they are currently giving citizenship to those in the high 4000's queue position.

On the other hand I applied at the end of last year and based on the speed over the past two weeks, it will be 5 years before I reach queue position 5000!!!
Yeah, it's just that checking the system everyday obsessively doesn't help :) I will stop doing that at least. Optimistically speaking, if they process 50 applications every week, then I might get a chance after 1,8 years, which is in line with their processing time prediction :P

Let's not lose hope, right? In your case, there was the holiday season in between, and I guess January is still somewhat a slow month? Let's see if it will accelerate at some point.

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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by TUserFin » Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:49 am

smo wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:49 am
I am at the very beginning of the whole process, and the wait is already very depressing. The queue just moved 6 people since yesterday. How is it even possible that only 6 applications were processed in whole Finland (I know there are other queues based on different application types), but still? Maybe I should just forget about the application and come back within 6 months, even 1 year later to check the progress :?
I'm in 490x-ish, it moved by 13 positions since yesterday.
btw, I found some information on other threads in this forum for previous years, someone made statistics based on people's feedback, and it looks like migri is processing more applications from different queue ranges every month. so next month can be 3000-4000 processing etc.


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