Will I feel good in Finland?

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Re: Will I feel good in Finland?

Post by foca » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:52 pm

Adrian42 wrote:
"Two Finns" committed the crime.

Or if it happened in Finland "two men", since there is usually neither a reason for mentioning the nationality nor the religion in that case.

Only when the religion is relevant in the crime (e.g. if a Christian burned down a mosque) it is reasonable to mention the religion of the offender.
foca wrote:Or two true Finns did that?
That would blame a specific political party. Unless that party was involved in the crime that would be wrong.
We live in strange times. A Hasidic Jew or a Russian or any person with strong specific cultural background would certainly be quite against being called a Finn , even if he has a Finnish passport in his pocket. When did that become a reality when citizenship defines nationality? Is Hanukkah a Finnish holiday nowadays? If it comes to that even Swedish Finns do not accept being called Finns. Mentioning nationality in crime reports might be quite too much, but in other situations it sill happens on regular basis, and every society tries to find balance. For example in Russia while watching tv you may come across information that a person of Caucasus origin committed a crime, but never a Tatar or an Ukranian or a Belorussian (or a Jew if that matters).....
And of course it was a joke about true Finns......
It is different for people coming from a big multicultural nation like Russia , but even in the days of the Soviet Union certain people resented being called Russians while being abroad ( they still perceived themselves as Bashkirs , Estonians , etc), yet others had no problem with that. Imperial mentality is a hard thing to comprehend: Peter rightfully called himself Roman , not being Latin or even Italian


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Re: Will I feel good in Finland?

Post by foca » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:34 pm

Adrian42 wrote:
Only when the religion is relevant in the crime (e.g. if a Christian burned down a mosque) it is reasonable to mention the religion of the offender.
Oe more remark : how do we know why this particular Christian burned a mosque? Did that happen because he was a Christian or because he was a bastard who had lost all human traits ?
In my case I mentioned ethnic origins of the three persons who signed my granddads death penalty , but did they do it because they were a Finn, a Latvian ( presumably) and a Jew, or because they had stopped being morally restricted human beings and had become monsters?
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