Are you saying that the way the 4 years continuous residency rule is counted based on today's date and 4 years earlier, i.e. not from the start of the residency? I have similar issue as i have been travelling verry frequently in 2018, 2019 and 2020.mamutti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:08 pmBy the way, I am going to send another citizenship application, so there can be possibility of getting it through automatic decisions. As in my case Migri told to Oileuskansleri about my travels that should be paid attention to, so everything else should be fine. After waiting for more than 21 months, my travels in 2016, 2017, 2018 and partly in 2019 don’t matter anymore, as 4-years time has shifted and I haven’t traveled anymore that much after the end of 2019.
Migri also told that it is actually possible to create as many applications as humanly possible, you just need to pay another fee. But I don’t want to wait anymore, so I would rather take a chance and hope for the automatic processing for now
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Correct.UncleSam wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:27 pmAre you saying that the way the 4 years continuous residency rule is counted based on today's date and 4 years earlier, i.e. not from the start of the residency? I have similar issue as i have been travelling verry frequently in 2018, 2019 and 2020.mamutti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:08 pmBy the way, I am going to send another citizenship application, so there can be possibility of getting it through automatic decisions. As in my case Migri told to Oileuskansleri about my travels that should be paid attention to, so everything else should be fine. After waiting for more than 21 months, my travels in 2016, 2017, 2018 and partly in 2019 don’t matter anymore, as 4-years time has shifted and I haven’t traveled anymore that much after the end of 2019.
Migri also told that it is actually possible to create as many applications as humanly possible, you just need to pay another fee. But I don’t want to wait anymore, so I would rather take a chance and hope for the automatic processing for now
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With that perfect processing time of Migri I already reached 8 years anywayUskomaton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pmhttps://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx
The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
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And the pending applications will be affected as well.Uskomaton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pmhttps://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx
The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
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Tämä laki tulee voimaan päivänä kuuta 20 .Uskomaton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pmhttps://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx
The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Tämän lain voimaan tullessa vireillä olevaan kansalaisuushakemukseen sovelletaan tämän lain voimaan tullessa voimassa olleita säännöksiä.
Lakiehdotus päättyy
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puhemies
pääsihteeri
Translation to English :
This law enters into force on the 20th of the month.
When this law enters into force, the regulations in force when this law enters into force will apply to citizenship applications pending.
The bill ends
In Helsinki on July 1, 2024
On behalf of the Parliament
speaker
general secretary
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Right so the new laws will not be applied retroactively, i.e., the pending applications will be processed according to the previous rules. Did I get it right?Oussbe7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:18 pmTämä laki tulee voimaan päivänä kuuta 20 .Uskomaton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pmhttps://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx
The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Tämän lain voimaan tullessa vireillä olevaan kansalaisuushakemukseen sovelletaan tämän lain voimaan tullessa voimassa olleita säännöksiä.
Lakiehdotus päättyy
Helsingissä 1.7.2024
Eduskunnan puolesta
puhemies
pääsihteeri
Translation to English :
This law enters into force on the 20th of the month.
When this law enters into force, the regulations in force when this law enters into force will apply to citizenship applications pending.
The bill ends
In Helsinki on July 1, 2024
On behalf of the Parliament
speaker
general secretary
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Finally migri has an excuse to process applications as slow as the wish
.adding pending applications to the new law means less processing and decisions to be made and more waiting time for old applications.
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the way i read it - the new law will apply to pending citizenship application, therefore affects the applications currently eaites to be processed !!approw1903 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:39 pmRight so the new laws will not be applied retroactively, i.e., the pending applications will be processed according to the previous rules. Did I get it right?Oussbe7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:18 pmTämä laki tulee voimaan päivänä kuuta 20 .Uskomaton wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pmhttps://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx
The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Tämän lain voimaan tullessa vireillä olevaan kansalaisuushakemukseen sovelletaan tämän lain voimaan tullessa voimassa olleita säännöksiä.
Lakiehdotus päättyy
Helsingissä 1.7.2024
Eduskunnan puolesta
puhemies
pääsihteeri
Translation to English :
This law enters into force on the 20th of the month.
When this law enters into force, the regulations in force when this law enters into force will apply to citizenship applications pending.
The bill ends
In Helsinki on July 1, 2024
On behalf of the Parliament
speaker
general secretary
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I think it is a bit different. The translation is surely confusing but in another place they have a detailed explanation whose translation is clearer.UncleSam wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:30 amthe way i read it - the new law will apply to pending citizenship application, therefore affects the applications currently eaites to be processed !!approw1903 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:39 pmRight so the new laws will not be applied retroactively, i.e., the pending applications will be processed according to the previous rules. Did I get it right?Oussbe7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:18 pm
Tämä laki tulee voimaan päivänä kuuta 20 .
Tämän lain voimaan tullessa vireillä olevaan kansalaisuushakemukseen sovelletaan tämän lain voimaan tullessa voimassa olleita säännöksiä.
Lakiehdotus päättyy
Helsingissä 1.7.2024
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puhemies
pääsihteeri
Translation to English :
This law enters into force on the 20th of the month.
When this law enters into force, the regulations in force when this law enters into force will apply to citizenship applications pending.
The bill ends
In Helsinki on July 1, 2024
On behalf of the Parliament
speaker
general secretary
Check the following link
https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Halli ... +2024.aspx
there is the following paragraph
“…. In the transitional provisions, it is therefore proposed to stipulate that, with regard to the period of residence, Section 13, subsection 1, point 2, Section 14, subsection 1, point 3, Sections 15, 16, 18, 18 a, 20 and 22, Section 23 of the current law would apply: n subsection 2 and section 24 subsection 3, if the application is made before the proposed law changes come into force. The processing fee for the citizenship application is based on the cost-effectiveness principle and is hundreds of euros (in 2024, 490 euros for an electronic application and 690 euros for a paper application). Processing times for citizenship applications vary from a few months to more than two years. When the proposed changes come into force, citizenship applications will be pending whose authors have submitted their applications because they have assessed that they meet the requirements based on the current provisions of the Citizenship Act and the information on the website of the Finnish Immigration Service. It is therefore justified to apply the changes proposed in this presentation to those applications that are made after the changes proposed in this presentation come into force.
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Yeah it's confusing but let's see.migri might update their website and explain better
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Hi! Does new laws will effect the 2022 waiting application?
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NoDreamheart wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:25 amHi! Does new laws will effect the 2022 waiting application?
The new applications will be affected
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The data scraping and subsequent removal of queue information from Kamu made the local press https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000010522365.html
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Has anyone who applied in december 2023 received their decision yet?
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Beginning of Decembersillygoose wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:23 pmHas anyone who applied in december 2023 received their decision yet?
Silence mode from Migri is activated