Applying for Citizenship 2024

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sammyghyft
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by sammyghyft » Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:56 pm

I applied early December 2023. Still nothing



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MAR1
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by MAR1 » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:08 pm

sammyghyft wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:56 pm
I applied early December 2023. Still nothing
I applied 23rd December, still waiting

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Auringon_kukka » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:09 pm

sillygoose wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Has anyone who applied in december 2023 received their decision yet?
Better still: Has anyone who applied in August 2022 received their decision yet?

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Auringon_kukka » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:11 pm

riku2 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 11:46 am
The data scraping and subsequent removal of queue information from Kamu made the local press https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000010522365.html
The "bad" press will force migri to tighten up their systems.

Xzero
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Xzero » Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:54 pm

Uskomaton wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pm
https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx

The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.

They have finished the accumlative time for citizenship.

Can anyone please guide how will interuption work under new laws.

As per my understanding, if you are out of Finland for 5 years, then it would mean interruption...

Please guide.

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:16 pm

Uskomaton wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pm
https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx

The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Looks like the biggest change is the allowed travel. Pretty sure many will still apply but get negative decision because of the less travel allowed. So hopefully people will read the new rules carefully before sending their application.

Also before anyone asks, be truthful about travel report. Finns value honesty and it’s not ideal if they find out you lied about your travels.

DetectiveCat
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by DetectiveCat » Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:59 pm

The beginning of November is nothing still
sillygoose wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 1:23 pm
Has anyone who applied in december 2023 received their decision yet?

betelgeuse
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by betelgeuse » Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:06 pm

quillcentaur wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:16 pm
Uskomaton wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pm
https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx

The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Looks like the biggest change is the allowed travel. Pretty sure many will still apply but get negative decision because of the less travel allowed. So hopefully people will read the new rules carefully before sending their application.
The new rules are generally more relaxed about travel. The framework is different to the current one so individual outcomes depend on individual circumstances.

quillcentaur
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by quillcentaur » Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:57 pm

betelgeuse wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:06 pm
quillcentaur wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 3:16 pm
Uskomaton wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:38 pm
https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/vaski/Edusk ... +2024.aspx

The new citizenship law has been approved by the parliament today.
Looks like the biggest change is the allowed travel. Pretty sure many will still apply but get negative decision because of the less travel allowed. So hopefully people will read the new rules carefully before sending their application.
The new rules are generally more relaxed about travel. The framework is different to the current one so individual outcomes depend on individual circumstances.
The new rule is simpler than the old one but not essentially more relaxed. For people whose hobby is travelling, the new rule is more strict than the old one.

In the old rule you can travel here and there as long as you don’t exceed the rules (e.g., trips that don’t last more than a month) . In addition to that there’s even maximum 6 periods of 2 month travel, so that’s already max 12 months total + maximum two times of 6 month travel = so you get about 2 years of travel in total + the little travels that last less than a month. And that’s for *4 years type A residency before citizenship.

New rule: only 365 days of travel for the whole *5 years (Also just for quick reference for others: it’s 90 days max travel for the latest year just before you’re applying the citizenship)

Sucks for those who are backpacking/travelling a lot since they didn’t know this would be the case and they probably travelled in the past based on the knowledge that they were not violating residency rules for citizenship. But oh well! I guess it could be worse.

TL;DR: You can travel more under the old rule without it affecting the counting of residency towards citizenship

(Note that I’m just sharing what I think. This doesn’t affect me fortunately!)

betelgeuse
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by betelgeuse » Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:58 am

quillcentaur wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:57 pm

New rule: only 365 days of travel for the whole *5 years (Also just for quick reference for others: it’s 90 days max travel for the latest year just before you’re applying the citizenship)
Here’s the full text of the new rule:

”Kansalaistamisen edellytyksenä olevaan asumisaikaan hyväksytään Suomen ulkopuolella oleskelua yhteensä enintään 365 vuorokautta. Hakemuksen ratkaisemista edeltävän vuoden ajalta hyväksytään ulkomailla oleskelua kuitenkin yhteensä enintään 90 vuorokautta. Näiden määrien ylimeneviä ulkomaanpäiviä ei oteta mukaan asumisaikaa laskettaessa.

Yli viiden vuoden yhtäjaksoinen oleskelu Suomen ulkopuolella katkaisee asumisajan laskemisen. Asumisajan laskeminen alkaa tällöin uudelleen 14 §:n 1 momentin mukaisesti.”

If you travel in total for, for example, 400 days, it just means a 35 day delay to accumulating the five years of residence.

m02b06
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by m02b06 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 pm

Hello!

I just got my citizenship decision
Applied and visited Migri office in Lahti on 12.10.2022

Best of luck to all our 2022 team here!!!

broccoli
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by broccoli » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:55 pm

m02b06 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 pm
I just got my citizenship decision
Applied and visited Migri office in Lahti on 12.10.2022
oh wow congrats! How long time the decision take?
Did they ask for any info from you?
Last edited by broccoli on Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

m02b06
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by m02b06 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:00 pm

broccoli wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:55 pm
m02b06 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 pm
I just got my citizenship decision
Applied and visited Migri office in Lahti on 12.10.2022
oh wow congrats! Can you share first numbers of your diary number?
Did they ask for any info from you?
They haven’t asked anything at all, just sent a decision
First number is 9241

broccoli
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by broccoli » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:03 pm

I wonder if @karhu88 will get their decision like really soon

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Applying for Citizenship 2024

Post by Auringon_kukka » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:32 pm

m02b06 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:39 pm
Hello!

I just got my citizenship decision
Applied and visited Migri office in Lahti on 12.10.2022

Best of luck to all our 2022 team here!!!
Congratulations!!!

I applied in August 2022 and am still waiting...


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