Actually Molly Malones is good example of quite a different Irish bar. For one of course it does not show any Irish games or sports, which I found out 2.5 years ago, of course when we asked where they shownig the match the girl said of course. Turned out to be the crunch games for the Finns against Germany...the commited hari kari in that one. But the fact that it is full of Finns is a good thing, in many places I've been the locals regard an Irish bar as a sort of Moes tavern.
Personally I hate Irish bars, but not because of the reasons Sean mentioned. I mean I think its a bit sad that if you need a local or a bar to regularly to go to, being Irish you must go there. Generally you walk in and find for the most part its full of Irish people, I mean being Irish I've no problem with that...but its sad none the less. Of course if the reasons are purely sporting being there to support your team its different. But most Irish I knew in NY and in Amsterdam, they went there because they made no effort to create their own niche in their host culture. But I'm getting into a whole different topic.
Anyways, once by accident I ended up in a bar called the 3 sisters in Amsterdam for Sunday coffee and asked the barman did he have any English language papers to read. He had none, just some old magazines. I figured that would do, wyhile I killed time waiting for my friend. Turned out it was a trade magazine on buying kit Irish bars, with all the fittings lead by Guinness Diageo and some Irish guys.
So yeah theme bars, I'd say any Moroccan would be deeply insulted at Zanzibars attempt at a Moroccan theme bar in Dublin, of Pravda, thats hardly a Russian bar...
Personally I think theres a market for a Finnish bar, I'd call it the "Speakeasy" I'd have the bar staff wearing shiney tracksuits from the 80s and I'd only sell Koskekorva and hmm Koff...and I'd play HIM non stop...scarey place!!
International football and Irish pubs
London has quite a nice scandinavian bar called Nordic Bar on Newman street. Virtually all of the people that go there are Scandinavian. They serve all the nice food and Lapin Kulta too as well as the Kopperberg ciders etc. They run promotions there all the time as well as tourist guides and brochures for all the scandinavian countries. Well worth a visit if you are in the area.jcooper wrote:Personally I think theres a market for a Finnish bar, I'd call it the "Speakeasy" I'd have the bar staff wearing shiney tracksuits from the 80s and I'd only sell Koskekorva and hmm Koff...and I'd play HIM non stop...scarey place!!
Thats a good idea, I've just emailed sky to find out if its possible... we'll seemeenfreem wrote:1.can't we bribe a bar somewhere to show these sort of game though?! there must be a place around here somewhere where they receive sky sports?!?
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Finnish sport in Ireland?
I'm sure if there was a 'Finnish' pub in Ireland they would show finnish football.. and ice hockey more importantly, in fact last year I watched Finland v Sweden in an Australian pub in Munich, so it is possible, maybe the problem is getting all those 600 finnish together in one place to make a finnish pub in Ireland profitable. Somehow I don't think the Irish would go in for a Finnish theme bar though
"One plus point about having Irish pubs in Helsinki is that it can at least give Irish expats a job if they come to Finland!!"
I've not been here long or looked that hard but I have only seen two Irish women working in the Irish pubs in Helsinki, I am Irish, and I left my CV into all of them but not one has contacted me yet. (Note to self: maybe I should follow that one up
)"I think the bigger reason for the 'theme' pubs is to give them something different and set them apart from all the other pubs. They all want lots of customers and its just another way to pull in the punters! "
That is true, the problem I have with this though is that it creates an impression that the Irish are just a nation of alcoholics who spend every night getting pissed and shagging strangers the picked up down the pub! Hmmm, ok maybe its fairly close but is it really necessary to call it Irish. Given that the vast majority of the regulars in Helsinkis 'Irish' pubs are finnish, it quite clear that they are well capable of falling around like drunken idiots on their own. Maybe its just another form of denial associated with over abuse of alcohol?
Anyway, iI think it clear there are plenty of us with a vested interest in getting Irish/English/Scottish/Welsh interest sport into at least one of the pubs in Helsinki. The rugby world cup could be a good excuse to try...
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http://www...com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=684Sean wrote:I've not been here long or looked that hard but I have only seen two Irish women working in the Irish pubs in Helsinki, I am Irish, and I left my CV into all of them but not one has contacted me yet. (Note to self: maybe I should follow that one up
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Well, to get a sex change you need to...Sean wrote:I've not been here long or looked that hard but I have only seen two Irish women working in the Irish pubs in Helsinki, I am Irish, and I left my CV into all of them but not one has contacted me yet. (Note to self: maybe I should follow that one up
There are "Finnish pubs" in Spain and Greece. "Genuine" ones in Spain. You can get meatballs and mash and listen to tango. In Greece I thought I was drunk there was a one-wall mural of the WC hockey winning team of the 90's. Really weird. For sports, you need to go to a "sports bar". Like my local. They have two screens and show pretty well all football games. However as the satellites are a bit crap, usually it is Eurosport. Irish bars here are overpriced with slightly better decor that the tex-mex fad interiors. Actually I wouldn't mind getting a few pieces of furniture (as well as from the guys that sell the interiors to the Chinese places) from these. Need to go take a visit to the "bankrupcy & recycle interiors place" one of these days, need a few decent chairs.
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Rugby World Cup
Hi All
this is my first time on the board having just moved to Jyväskylä. I've been desperatly trying to find out how to get some coverage of the world cup up here, it is possible to get sky - just need a big dish (1.5m), but this would be pretty expensive. Still trying to find other options!
As for the irish flag thing, I'm pretty sure that it is actually Green, white and orange - the green to symbolise nationalism, the orange to symbolise unionism/protestanism and the white to symbolise the coming together of the two.
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this is my first time on the board having just moved to Jyväskylä. I've been desperatly trying to find out how to get some coverage of the world cup up here, it is possible to get sky - just need a big dish (1.5m), but this would be pretty expensive. Still trying to find other options!
As for the irish flag thing, I'm pretty sure that it is actually Green, white and orange - the green to symbolise nationalism, the orange to symbolise unionism/protestanism and the white to symbolise the coming together of the two.
Cheers
Stu
Re: Rugby World Cup
Guinness turned the Orange to Gold!!sflint wrote:Hi All
this is my first time on the board having just moved to Jyväskylä. I've been desperatly trying to find out how to get some coverage of the world cup up here, it is possible to get sky - just need a big dish (1.5m), but this would be pretty expensive. Still trying to find other options!
As for the irish flag thing, I'm pretty sure that it is actually Green, white and orange - the green to symbolise nationalism, the orange to symbolise unionism/protestanism and the white to symbolise the coming together of the two.
Cheers
Stu
One of my locals shows Sky as sport is their main theme. The signal gets here but Sky will not sell their decoder here. The landlord gets a friend in Britain to register and send over the decoder.
Just what's different about an "Irish" pub compared to many decent pubs in Britain? In terms of decor my guess is that many early 20th century British pubs are much the same. Always happy to hear the lilt of an Irish landlord all the same.
Anyway, this Irish theme used here is just marketing.
Just what's different about an "Irish" pub compared to many decent pubs in Britain? In terms of decor my guess is that many early 20th century British pubs are much the same. Always happy to hear the lilt of an Irish landlord all the same.
Anyway, this Irish theme used here is just marketing.
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There's some sort of romantic perseption of the Irish and all things Irish. Don't get me wrong, most of them ( like any other nationality) are alright but really it's like a romantic novel, a load of b#%&*cks. That Irish leg waving is a very good example (River dance). Why not have a Zulu pub? Stick a few shields and stuff on the walls, have drum type music playing, the barman can be an Australian (as usual) and everybody can drink out of coconut shells. What about St Patricks day. Half the people who celebrate it couldn't find Ireland on a map! How many times do here anybody saying, "Hey,it's St Georges day today. Lets all get out of our boxs". And why should they? I'm glad I've got that off my chest.
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I'm sorry Sean but I don't mean to cause a political debate here and as sflint has already pointed out, the Irish flag is NOT Green, White and Gold but IS Green, White and Orange. Maybe you skipped history lessons at school. Either that or you went to school in Northern Ireland. As for me, I went to school in the Republic of Ireland and learned there that, as sflint said - Green=Roman Catholics White=Peace Orange=Protestants. Correct me if I'm wrong.Not only that but every time there is a flag on display it is Green, White and Orange, not Green, White and Gold as the Irish flag is.
As for the "Irish" bar in Turku, it's crap. An Irish would find it very difficult to get there as any time I've been there, the staff couldn't speak a word of English. It's an insult to all that's Irish. An Irish pub in Finland, or anywhere else for that matter, should be owned or run by an Irishman who knows what they're doing.
As for Fish'n'Chips. I'd love to see a good British-style chippy here. Greasy chips in a newspaper...yeeaah! :thumb_up: