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Henry-Finland · Post by **Henry-Finland** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:59 pm

It is not a Russian stranger, but the hospital that was the hospital for The Party

, which means that the best specialists works there.

I must say, that I trust those guys more than some commercial doctors who will operate anyone for money.

Just read here:http://www.surgicaleyes.org/News.htm

Henry

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superiorinferior · Post by **superiorinferior** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:02 pm

penelope wrote:The Russians invented laser surgery and have more experience doing myopia reduction than any other country in the world.

I think you might be a little off there.... Although it was though cooperation between scientists at Columbia U. and a certain Dr. Fyodorov who "brought about the practical application" of refractive surgery.

Surgery for Eyes
Dr. Steven Trokel patented the Excimer laser for vision correction. The Excimer laser was originally used for etching silicone computer chips in the 1970s. Working in the IBM research laboratories in 1982, Dr. Rangaswamy Srinivasin, James Wynne, and Samuel Blum, saw the potential of the Excimer laser in interacting with biological tissue. Srinivasin and the IBM team saw that you could remove tissue with a laser without causing any heat damage to the neighboring material. Dr. Steven Trokel, a New York City ophthalmologist, made the connection to the cornea and performed the first laser surgery on a patient's eyes in 1987. The next ten years were spent perfecting the equipment and the techniques used in laser eye surgery. In 1996, the first Excimer laser for ophthalmic refractive use was approved in the United States.

Note: It took the observations of Dr. Fyodorov in a case of eye trauma in the 1970's to bring about the practical application of refractive surgery through radial keratotomy.

http://inventors.about.com/library/inve ... llaser.htm

superiorinferior · Post by **superiorinferior** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:04 pm

Henry-Finland wrote: I must say, that I trust those guys more than some commercial doctors who will operate anyone for money.

Not me. Not my eyes. No matter what country... My dad had laser surgery and while it has been good, he has had some strange side effects, shooting pains and worried of complications.

Glasses are just fine for me.

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:09 pm

But my eyeglasses are thick and heavy and ugly. My vision's -4.25 in the left eye and -6.00 in the right. I would really like to get it done someday...my eyes produce a lot of regular tears, too. And people say that that's the prostpect you should most consider before you decide to get the surgery done.

RUSSIANS INVENTED LASIK?!?!?!

EP · Post by EP » Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:31 pm

Hanna, your glassed DO NOT HAVE to be thick and heavy. My eyes are about the same as yours, and my glasses are at the thckest point 1 mm. It all depends on the material the glasses are made of. Nowadays there are super-thin glass and plastic lenses.

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:46 pm

Oh, my.

Really? I did not know that. I haven't been exposed to very high technology yet in my life. The fact that doctors know how to make pacemakers, and to save premature babies in hospitals still almost totally overwhelms me. I need to move to somewhere like Finland and learn.

Henry-Finland · Post by **Henry-Finland** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:39 pm

Rahela-Hanna wrote:Oh, my. Really? I did not know that. I haven't been exposed to very high technology yet in my life. The fact that doctors know how to make pacemakers, and to save premature babies in hospitals still almost totally overwhelms me. I need to move to somewhere like Finland and learn.

Google:
spectacle lens hoya price

Check it out.

Henry

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:53 am

Äh, I get mine from glasogondirekt.se ... 42 euros for -4 lenses...

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:44 pm

Hm. Pretty good. Pretty damn good, that.

*looks some more*

glorius · Post by **glorius** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:57 pm

Henry-Finland wrote:Laser surgery is very cheap in Russia. My wife got one, but I do not remember how much it costed. I think it was about 30 dollars.

This could be a price for diagnostic only. Real price for operation starts from 300 euro. You can check the prices here - http://www.euromed.ru/en/fees/full . This is private medical center in Saint-Petersburg, so not quite far from Finland. Prices there are in roubles, don’t be scary. 34 roubles = 1 euro

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:34 pm

I see. Yeah. I guess I'm mostly afraid just because I've got this natural, America-ingrained stereotype stuck in my brain that has to do with the thoughts that all Russians are badly trained for their jobs, poor, and above all, DIRTY.

But by myself, I don't believe any of those factors. Though I'd still certainily be bloody careful when I'm goin' around looking for a doctor to work on my eyes.

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:15 pm

Rahela-Hanna wrote:I are badly trained for their jobs, poor,

Never been to any place teeming with "service staff" in the US?

Henry-Finland · Post by **Henry-Finland** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:17 pm

glorius wrote:
Henry-Finland wrote:Laser surgery is very cheap in Russia. My wife got one, but I do not remember how much it cost. I think it was about 30 dollars.
This could be a price for diagnostic only. Real price for operation starts from 300 euro. You can check the prices here - http://www.euromed.ru/en/fees/full. This is private medical center in Saint-Petersburg, so not quite far from Finland. Prices there are in roubles, don’t be scary. 34 roubles = 1 euro

St Pete and Moscow are very expensive cities.
Private medical centers are free to take any money they want. And they do.

Henry

Rahela-Hanna · Post by **Rahela-Hanna** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:21 am

Hank W. wrote:
Rahela-Hanna wrote:I are badly trained for their jobs, poor,
Never been to any place teeming with "service staff" in the US?

No, I ain't...what, are they very bad as well?

Nukkepöksy · Post by **Nukkepöksy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:53 pm

Rahela-Hanna wrote:Just somebody tell me if you can really get Lasik done in Finland. And/or tattoos and piercings, if you wouldn't mind.

I got a labret (lip) piercing done on September 23 of this year, in Helsinki. I had my friend take me to the best place to get it done. It was VERY clean, inexpensive, very professional and (most importantly

) very funky. My piercing was completely healed by mid-October. I didn't know at the time, but my friend told me later that the most famous piercer in Helsinki pierced my lip. I unfortunately can't remember her name, but she talked me through the whole thing and was very friendly and professional. It actually hurt WAY WAY more to get my ears pierced with a gun, than getting my lip pierced manually by this funky woman. Anyway, I'll save you the suspense and tell you. I got it done at 'Harness Bodypiercing" in Helsinki. Good luck with your book/tattoos/piercings

-Eeva

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