Non finnish family lawyer

[brendan_uk]

thanks everyone for their comments you have been really helpfull.

the language is daily on the tv, radio, internet.. what greater gift you can pass onto your daugther?

This is where i am comming from, I have sent her many talking books (cat in a hat etc) and her mum said she enjoyed them and even started copying some of the words.

Maybe its difficult for me to believe that I could "stress out" my daughter by simply showing my love via talking to her.

The courts would have given me more access if I had been living in finland, so where they then encouraging me to freak her out, with my mad english squawking?

The whole concept seems misguided and wrong headed when relating to parents. In education where you you have a choice it might be better suited to this view.

I understand better now what the lawyer was trying to say, but its not much use to me if I need to get interpretations from a internet bulletin board every time she makes a comment. Maybe I will get in touch with Ross sooner rather than later

thanks again, I am sure things will work out love conquers all! [/quote]

[brendan_uk]

that Äiti rules

That is true, since we were not married, she rules and sets her own rules. I dont think any court in the world would go against her.

The childs wellware is the #1 priorty.

and thnak god for this, as she has the right to see me, its what gives me the ability to visit her. I being an un married parent have no say at all in how she is brought up or any rights to visit her, I do have the right to be informed when she gets ill etc.

But that is a more general discuss on the rights of fathers.

[Deman]

Brendan. You seem to be in a very difficult situation and the solution seems hard to come by. I know two lawyers from England living here in Turku but I think they both specialise in corporate law though I could be wrong. I see what I can do and have a chat with them.
I have kids myself and would hate to be parted from them, especially on ridiculous prejudiced grounds

[brendan_uk]

You seem to be in a very difficult situation and the solution seems hard to come by

I really dont understand why its such a difficult situation (my ex and the finnish lawyers think it is too). I cant see anything more natural that a father to see his daughter.

I am happy that she stays with her mother and grows up a finnish girl (all be it with a foreign surname). Her mother is the best person to make day to day decision about her and again I am happy with that.

I dont understand why I need to get lawyers and social workers involved to see my daughter for visits if I live abroad and for longer periods if I am living in helsinki.

If I was looking after her I would be pleased that her mother wanted to visit and be part of our daughters life.

I am comming to the conclusion that my ex and the finnish mafia want me to go away like some kind of bad smell and are just fabricating difficulties to make me give up and forget I have a daughter, something I can not do even if I wanted.

They will just have to get used to me being around

I hope to visit at the end of this month so I hope to sort out the practicalities (which is all I see them as) then. If I cant find a amicable solution I will reluctantly contact Ross.

[PeterF]

The real solution has to be in the hands of you and your Ex to discuss/arrange mutualy acceptable access.
It does not mater really what Lawyers say/decide.
Because when come down to the practical visits, they are not there and probably cannot be contacted, with out an appoitment next week, which is too late if you are on a week end visit from UK, and she says you cant take your daughter to the park because..because etc.

So, I know it will not be easy but talk with her face to face and discuss the situation:
Her fears your wishes; time tables; house rules;..try to be reasonable, try to forget and forgive the past or who is/was right and who wrong.
You were able to communicate in the past, there must be some common denominator...find it!

[Francis]

I'll have to agree with what Peter just said. I am a divorced dad myself(although I do live here in Finland). I was lucky enough to reach a solution about the whole divorce/child issue with my ex wihtout bringing in any lawyers. Bottom line: both parents must be adults and look at it from the point of view of the child and do what is best for the child. It's not the lawyer's decision to make, it's the parents'. It's always sad to hear about this kind of situation where a parent (most often the father) has difficulties in seeing their kids...

[ajdias]

I'm afraid Peter might be right when he says that the court will come on the mother's side in any case, right or not..

If the mother is genuinely concern with your daughter's language it could be a good idea to look for a specialist on the field of bilingualism an get him/her to hear the whole story. A place to start looking is this newsletter:
http://www.multilingualmatters.com/mult ... letter.pdf Print the PDF and look for contact information on page 8. Notice that the editor (Marketta) is a Finn based in the UK (you're in the Uk?), and if she can't help you she will redirect you to some other expert. A Finn is likely to have higher credibility from the mother's point of view.

[brendan_uk]

mother is genuinely concern with your daughter's language

I dont think she is really, she is just thinking up anything that might be an obsticle to me visiting and throwing it in the way. I have dealt with them all so far and I reckon I can sort this one out to with a little help with the social services and then maybe a lawyer.

She cannot be an obsticle for every as this would go directly against the vantaa courts ruling. I have been told she needs to prevent me seeing my daughter 4 or 5 times then they might, just might put an court order type thing on her that if she does it again she might just might get a fine.

[distantspaces]

Hi,

I found this link from the British Embassy, Helsinki website.

English Speaking Lawyers:
http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servle ... 6180922699

It has a list of 'English Speaking Lawyers'.Some of them deal in Family law too. Most of them seem like Finnish law firms, but maybe you could spot some foreigners in there. See if it helps.

[SteveO23]

Hi all,

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I have just found my self in a very similar situation & have recently been desperately searching for English-speaking Finnish lawyers &/or people that could offer any advise.

If any of you guys happen to see this post, please could you drop me a message? Ideally I'm just after some general advice (from your experiences) & any contact info etc for any decent lawyers you may know of.

Many thanks,
Steve

[ajdias]

Hi Steve,


Are you in Helsinki? This is one office that has services in english and I can recommend:
www. tinyurl.com/asianais

[SteveO23]

Hi Steve,


Are you in Helsinki? This is one office that has services in english and I can recommend:
www.tinyurl.com/asianais

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm actually based in the UK, but my child has just been born in Finland (Espoo).

Steve

[Tiwaz]

Hi Steve,


Are you in Helsinki? This is one office that has services in english and I can recommend:
http://www.tinyurl.com/asianais

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I'm actually based in the UK, but my child has just been born in Finland (Espoo).

Steve

Inside or outside marriage?

[Pursuivant]

Which means, are you the father officially in the papers?

[brendan_uk]

Hi Steve,

try this. Finnish Bar Association advocate finder

http://www.asianajajaliitto.fi/asianaja ... ate_finder

Bren