Am I a good candidate to move to Finland?

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Post by sinikala » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:36 pm

kay30 wrote:I don't mean to be mean, but you really should apply some common sense to this. How on earth are you going to support yourself here once you have blown thru your savings?
He says he has $48,000, he can only come here on 3 month a tourist visa.

If he doesn't find work in 3 months he has to go back.

By my reckoning if he flew first class he would still have to burn $15k per month. I'd say $10,000k would get him here and buy him a fairly decent lifestyle for 3 months.


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Post by Karibu » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:48 pm

With $48000 you can live a year here pretty comfortable way. It doesn't cost much to have a simple bed, chair, table and TV for you. You can have all this with less than 2000€.
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Re: Am I a good candidate to move to Finland?

Post by sinikala » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:51 pm

Mark I. wrote:I'm thinking of starting a new movement: People against CV-racism. :wink:
You don't need to, it hardly exists here (except from me :twisted:). So people with a sh*t CV can benefit, whereas people who have worked hard don't get the benefits given in other countries. Social democracy in action.
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Post by nomad_alien » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:30 am

Turku area is also the place to be for biotechnology. There's also a lot of development in this area in the Helsinki area, but it still lags behind Oulu/Turku.

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Post by jessesuomi » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:03 pm

Uuummmm, I might be a little wrong here, but a few years ago when I first was looking into coming to Finland I was told very resoundingly that one can not come to Finland on a tourist visa, as a tourist or whatever you want to call it and search for work. If you had done so you are setting yourself up to be escorted to the border. You will need to have the job offered to you before you enter finland.

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Post by Hank W. » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:07 pm

One can of course search for work, but generally one "needs to go back to their own country" to then apply for the residence permit. "Generally" meaning theres all kinds of small print, but if you read the "stupid UVI decision" - thread you can see that the small print is there.

So you're right one can't just "pop in and expect to stay".
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Post by sinikala » Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:30 pm

jessesuomi wrote:Uuummmm, I might be a little wrong here, but a few years ago when I first was looking into coming to Finland I was told very resoundingly that one can not come to Finland on a tourist visa, as a tourist or whatever you want to call it and search for work. If you had done so you are setting yourself up to be escorted to the border. You will need to have the job offered to you before you enter finland.
AFAIK There is nothing stopping someone coming here on a tourist visa, putting out feelers, making contacts, getting a job offer then returning to their home country to make the formal application / paperwork. As Hank says; so long as they don't expect to start work during their first visit here. Possibly Daryl knows otherwise?

The cost of a couple of transatlantic plane tickets and a couple of months in Finland really is not all that large an outlay if (and I suppose it is a big IF) it leads to long term employment. So it is a gamble.

I neglected to answer the original posters question... is he a good candidate? "no". A good candidate would have a good track record in their own country & he doesn't sound like he has skills which are in high demand.

Would I take the gamble in his position? Possibly. But only after investigating and exhausting all possibilities closer to home.
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Re: Am I a good candidate to move to Finland?

Post by haahatus » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:03 am

sinikala wrote:
This is the land of the dodgy CV. I believe the US is similar to the UK, we need to show a solid CV and account for all the time since we were at school. In Finland some people tit around for 8-10 years before graduating then walk into a good job aged 28-32. That is simply not possible in England. Employers would laugh at you.

A few years ago I had an application for a summer job post from a guy just 2 years younger than I, he had literally done nothing with his life but study. No real employment history, just a few summer jobs. Tragic, but I'm sure someone will take him.
great :roll:

There are people not working. That is a societal form of waste.

But it causes waste too if only people who have always thought of their cv all the time and constantly. Better if people thinked all the time of their cvs but the real world is different. So someone who has studied something , willing to work is some useless laughingstock , "youl never see but if you do now get out of here hey maybe someone will take you" hohohoho. And these people are presumebably long away from retirement age. Yes those people are second choice to someone else, and possibly be of dubious mental character. I mean mental character not as stupid or dumb but a sign of lazyness , ineffeciency or mental problems etc. A hole in the cv was it spent being a bum? And other point a theoretical weird cv

Thats a different form of waste. And is a sign of a societal structural problem not only of personal problems.

This form of thinking creates outsiders to the working force, where in reality alot of these people would be capable to work. Sounds like there was big unemployment or underemployment in one area or another.

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Re: Am I a good candidate to move to Finland?

Post by sinikala » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:27 am

haahatus wrote:
sinikala wrote:
This is the land of the dodgy CV. I believe the US is similar to the UK, we need to show a solid CV and account for all the time since we were at school. In Finland some people tit around for 8-10 years before graduating then walk into a good job aged 28-32. That is simply not possible in England. Employers would laugh at you.

A few years ago I had an application for a summer job post from a guy just 2 years younger than I, he had literally done nothing with his life but study. No real employment history, just a few summer jobs. Tragic, but I'm sure someone will take him.
great :roll:

There are people not working. That is a societal form of waste.

But it causes waste too if only people who have always thought of their cv all the time and constantly. Better if people thinked all the time of their cvs but the real world is different. So someone who has studied something , willing to work is some useless laughingstock , "youl never see but if you do now get out of here hey maybe someone will take you" hohohoho. And these people are presumebably long away from retirement age. Yes those people are second choice to someone else, and possibly be of dubious mental character. I mean mental character not as stupid or dumb but a sign of lazyness , ineffeciency or mental problems etc. A hole in the cv was it spent being a bum? And other point a theoretical weird cv

Thats a different form of waste. And is a sign of a societal structural problem not only of personal problems.

This form of thinking creates outsiders to the working force, where in reality alot of these people would be capable to work. Sounds like there was big unemployment or underemployment in one area or another.
Nice philosophy... sadly when there is one job and five candidates where 1 is young & worked spectacularly hard to get their qualification in a timely fashion, 3have done it at a normal pace, and the final guy has been a lazy sod and taken twice as long as the norm, who's going to get the job?

I'll give you a hint - it isn't the one who took the scenic route.
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