Finnish citizenship, letter of approval

Mumintroll · Post by **Mumintroll** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:26 am

Hank W. wrote:Does or does not?

I have the card in the other trousers pocket. It probably does not have due to the personal information law, so the official letters stopped having it in 2000 or 2001 or so.

Jaha, does not is what I meant to type. It does not have the personal number on the voting card. Full name and home address though and voting place. Actually, I have just noticed there are two words of Swedish on the thing.. my voting place is a Swedish speaking school. Well, there is a bonus...

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sy · Post by sy » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:50 pm

Mumintroll wrote:I received a fairly plain looking decision informing me I was a Finnish citizen as of the date I applied (i.e. backdated).

Basically it's same for the citizenship application (yours is citizenship declaration). You'll get a decision letter informing you that you are a Finnish citizen as of the date of APPROVAL.

UVI also sends a letter saying that you need contact the local police to get your residence permit canceled (since you're citizen now, no need for the residence permit).

After that, it's up to you on how to do with your citizenship now. I guess most people will go to the local police to apply for a new passport. You can attach the decision letter from UVI as the proof as your citizenship, if your information has not updated in their system for some reason.

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:58 pm

I know that I should apply for Citizenship.. But whats bothering me is the level 4 Finnish exam.. and I was wondering where you can take this exam? Any online places where I can test my level of understanding of Finnish?
TIA

Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:07 pm

You can try explain me how to cook on Saturday, and we'll see

ojentaisitteko chilikastikeen hadutuspannun

sy · Post by sy » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:24 pm

raamv wrote:I know that I should apply for Citizenship.. But whats bothering me is the level 4 Finnish exam.. and I was wondering where you can take this exam? Any online places where I can test my level of understanding of Finnish?
TIA

Only level 3 is required for the citizenship application. For more info, check the following links:

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bb/viewtopic.php?t=7680
http://www.oph.fi -> Tutkintopalvelut -> Yleiset kielitutkinnot
http://www.dialang.org

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:43 pm

Hank W. wrote:You can try explain me how to cook on Saturday, and we'll see
ojentaisitteko chilikastikeen hadutuspannun

mika on hadutus?
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enk · Post by **enk** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:29 pm

Also if you get official translator papers you shouldn't have to take
the language test anymore.

Ja eiköhän tuo ole "haudutus-".

-enk

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:12 pm

Now I feel like a Finn who is not comfortable talking in English!

I need an official Course so that I can spend and allocate that time for it and actually attend the course. Can anyone recommend one close to kirkkonummi? Moreover, I am looking for someone who can teach me conversational Finnish as in encouraging me to talk back to them in Finnish and not stumble back into english when I blunder and try to explain things back in English..so I m kinda looking for a Dominiatricks for Spoken Finnish language.

Anyone Anyone?

zam · Post by **zam** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:42 pm

Mumintroll wrote: Jaha, does not is what I meant to type. It does not have the personal number on the voting card. Full name and home address though and voting place. Actually, I have just noticed there are two words of Swedish on the thing.. my voting place is a Swedish speaking school. Well, there is a bonus...

The voting card has a bar code that most likely contains the ID number or some other form of identifying info (at least the clerk showed that to a reader and did not have to type anything when I was voting the other day).

Mumintroll · Post by **Mumintroll** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:49 pm

zam wrote:
Mumintroll wrote: Jaha, does not is what I meant to type. It does not have the personal number on the voting card. Full name and home address though and voting place. Actually, I have just noticed there are two words of Swedish on the thing.. my voting place is a Swedish speaking school. Well, there is a bonus...
The voting card has a bar code that most likely contains the ID number or some other form of identifying info (at least the clerk showed that to a reader and did not have to type anything when I was voting the other day).

Interesting, mine has no bar code. Perhaps it depends on where you live and how up to date the technology is there.

zam · Post by **zam** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:28 pm

The bar code is a small one in the top left corner near the name.

Mumintroll · Post by **Mumintroll** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:32 pm

zam wrote:The bar code is a small one in the top left corner near the name.

Definitely not there. No bar code. Perhaps they send a different version to people abroad? Although, I would have thought that is unlikely because mine clearly lists my designated voting station in my registered home municipality. Unfortunately I can't really tell if it is a special "abroad" version because as I said, it is only in Finnish. The only two words of Swedish on the entire thing are in the address of the said voting station... as it is in a Swedish-speaking school.

zam · Post by **zam** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:47 pm

The one they sent here in Finland looked like some magazine advertisement. It was really close to be thrown into the recycling bin

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It really looked similar to the "Telvis- raati" invitation that came earlier this winter...

Mumintroll · Post by **Mumintroll** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:51 pm

zam wrote:The one they sent here in Finland looked like some magazine advertisement. It was really close to be thrown into the recycling bin .

It really looked similar to the "Telvis- raati" invitation that came earlier this winter...

haha, ok, in that case it is definitely different. This one is a very dull piece of A5 paper (not actually magazine style gloss or card) that arrived in a plain envelope from the Magistrate together with a list of places to vote in advance in "central and south Europe". I suppose embassies etc don't have bar code gear etc, so it is not necessary for the bar code... who can say! Oh well, that is that one sorted out anyway.

hiphei · Post by **hiphei** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:53 pm

Hank W. wrote:
>...and you know like in USA you do the swearing ceremony?

it's called the oath ceremony - I know, because I just got my US Citizenship (dual citizen).

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