Eledi, I believe, job hunting in finland is more about how can you reach to decision maker, i.e. who you know (first) and then what you know. You may want to join some network such as otaniemi international network or others. This may help you to connect to some people and something may click from there!! Seems you know the local language, and in that case, job hunting should not be that difficult vis a vis not knowing the local language.
Good luck with your search
Nilay
foreign woman DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR WORK
The Devil lies in the details: Master OF Business AdministrationHank W. wrote:Erm... there is a MBA and then a Master in Business Administration... I have a BBA from (Haaga)Helia, and if I got the Master degree in the computing department, I'd be a MBA. Nothing to do with the "paid degrees", and even less with business...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mba
hmm, this MBA (master IN business administration) title is a "bit" misleading, maybe it should be renamed to MiBA; also real MBA requires work experience, recommendations and a pile of cash
once you get into MBA you have access to a wider range of opportunities. First, your are having classes with "colleagues" from other companies, which are already managers or aspiring to that, you can network with them, expand your horizon, etc. Universities are also networking their MBAs with prospecting companies.raamv wrote:Like the manager position is waiting to jump at her and stand in front of her nose..Ciprian wrote:AFAIK MBA requires €€/$$, so if you afford that without a job, why bother?
take your time, enjoy the MBA and apply direct as a manager afterwards
There was a statistic from 2006: more than 70% of people find their next job via networking. So if you don't have that, you're in the 30% >> lot of work to find a job (applications, applications, applications)
PS. like with any school, there is no one waiting in line to give you a job. it's up you to get employment
ALl this theory matters till you start experiencing it...Ciprian wrote:once you get into MBA you have access to a wider range of opportunities. First, your are having classes with "colleagues" from other companies, which are already managers or aspiring to that, you can network with them, expand your horizon, etc. Universities are also networking their MBAs with prospecting companies.raamv wrote:Like the manager position is waiting to jump at her and stand in front of her nose..Ciprian wrote:AFAIK MBA requires €€/$$, so if you afford that without a job, why bother?
take your time, enjoy the MBA and apply direct as a manager afterwards
There was a statistic from 2006: more than 70% of people find their next job via networking. So if you don't have that, you're in the 30% >> lot of work to find a job (applications, applications, applications)
Once you have an MBA, it makes it soo much more difficult to hire you because, you are overqualified for some positions..
and the danger of actually doing something relating to business...
Plus, you have no clue on MBA in the workplace...do you?
Every jukka, pekka and marikka who go for an MBA are still doing lots of coding as well as managing some people..so a person who is going to school with the ones working is still relatively "Jobless"!!!
You have no clue about Workplace culture in Finland..
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Could you please elaborate on this? I don't see your point...Eledi wrote: ps: Ciprian, i do hope that you are in contact with your relatives(romanians) who happen to be right where i am...if not,,,try to find them, they happen to visit the same forum you are visiting NOW.
> real MBA requires work experience, recommendations and a pile of cash
Most (maybe all) people on my MBA course did have work experience, but it wasn't a requirement. There was no need for recommendations of any sort, and I can't imagine what you mean by that. A pile of cash was needed, but I did my MBA in the UK. In Finland, with free education, this may be different; I don't know.
Most (maybe all) people on my MBA course did have work experience, but it wasn't a requirement. There was no need for recommendations of any sort, and I can't imagine what you mean by that. A pile of cash was needed, but I did my MBA in the UK. In Finland, with free education, this may be different; I don't know.
there are lots of schools/uni that will give you MBA over the internet (online/offline courses). But who will trust those?DMC wrote:> real MBA requires work experience, recommendations and a pile of cash
Most (maybe all) people on my MBA course did have work experience, but it wasn't a requirement. There was no need for recommendations of any sort, and I can't imagine what you mean by that. A pile of cash was needed, but I did my MBA in the UK. In Finland, with free education, this may be different; I don't know.
do you have an MBA from Oxford/Cambridge/the likes? how well your MBA programme is ranking in top 100/500 schools? Is IT there anyway?!
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Well, yes and no. See there is a MBA and a Masters degree... The difference is which gives a qualification for "higher diploma of higher education"...DMC wrote:In Finland, with free education, this may be different; I don't know.
the MBA as a term is "taken" so atleast HKK gives out M.Sc degrees. the MBA is a different animal.
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> there are lots of schools/uni that will give you MBA over the internet (online/offline courses). But who will trust those?
Are any of those accredited by the likes of AMBA? If so, their standards should be comparable with traditional universties. If not, I would be very wary.
> do you have an MBA from Oxford/Cambridge/the likes?
> how well your MBA programme is ranking in top 100/500 schools? Is IT there anyway?!
Yes, I have a real MBA, from a real UK universtity, not a useless bit of paper from some fly-by-night internet "college". When I was studying there various surveys put the programme anywhere from 1st to 12th in the UK.
Are any of those accredited by the likes of AMBA? If so, their standards should be comparable with traditional universties. If not, I would be very wary.
> do you have an MBA from Oxford/Cambridge/the likes?
> how well your MBA programme is ranking in top 100/500 schools? Is IT there anyway?!
Yes, I have a real MBA, from a real UK universtity, not a useless bit of paper from some fly-by-night internet "college". When I was studying there various surveys put the programme anywhere from 1st to 12th in the UK.
Hello little Ciprian
when i asked if u r in contact with any of your relatives here..what was my point!!!?? OK, my point was that: i wonder why you don't know about this (MBA without £££££$$$$€€€€€) when theres many many of your fellow Romanians living here and struggling to make it just like me..looks like you are not even in contact with them,,,i mean you think that this is just a problem of one empty headed foreigner who went to Finland sometime ago and is now stuck!!!! hell No, there are Romanians here too baby...
don't ask me more, sit down and THINK!
don't ask me more, sit down and THINK!