Gordon Ramsey on Finnish Food

[Megstertex]

Surely pillupiirakka has more flavor though

Ek sä pese sitä koskaa?

I am assuming. Don't have personal experience, I'm not that flexible.

[mCowboy]

Surely pillupiirakka has more flavor though

Ek sä pese sitä koskaa?

I am assuming. Don't have personal experience, I'm not that flexible.

c'mon megs, here in finland you should bend over backwards to fit in..

[sinikala]

He just simply comes over like a pretentious oaf with a very foul mouth. I have 2 of his books - the recipes are fine - comments OK - knowledge OK - but nothing that Julia Child didn't really teach us 30 years ago. He may have ability but someone should lock him up and ask him to send in his stuff by post. Jamie Oliver - if we are looking for 'entertainment' - is a lot more fun. if you want shock value of being crass and rude - just call around to some of the 'asiakaspalvelu's in Finland - though you'll probably have to go to a pub for the 'language' (so-called).

It never ceases to amaze me how that thick tongued fool Oliver has gone so far. His prep is awful... bits of soil ... eggshell in everywhere... hygiene non-existent... constantly sticking his dirty fingers in the food, sucking them, wiping them on the tea-towel and then dipping those same fingers in the food again. He might as well just gob straight in the food. Gross.

And there is no novelty in what he cooks, it's all bog standard and rather dull.

Ramsay may be a foulmouth opinionated oik but he certainly looks like he can cook. Personally I prefer Gary Rhodes and Heston Blumenthal.

Back to Oliver... and a bit of the old cross country running... pukka mate.

[Hank W.]

c'mon megs, here in finland you should bend over backwards to fit in..

In shiny tights

[enk]

Pillupiirakka?

Ripsari...

-enk

[Megstertex]

c'mon megs, here in finland you should bend over backwards to fit in..

In shiny tights

There was something more disturbing than amazing about that. And it wasn't just the shiny tights....

[sammy]

Back to Oliver... and a bit of the old cross country running... pukka mate.

Heh, that was fun... but... can't say much about the food these two guys make, but I must agree with the previous posters... no matter how superior Mr Ramsay might be to J "sir can I publish some more cookbooks" Oliver as a professional cook, the attitude of the latter certainly is IMHO far more inviting when it comes to encouraging people to do their own cooking, explore in the kitchen and actually have fun doing that... after all they're only TV shows, and if I decide to watch a cooking programme I'd rather enjoy it than listen to obscenities and bad manners.

Cooking itself is something I prefer to do myself

[rinso]

Jamie and Gordon definitely have different styles of cooking. Since they explore flavours differently it is difficult to compare. Both have their own place in the culinary world. Rocco Disperito was presented as an *sshole in a TV series, but his understanding of flavours is superb.
Btw, when Jamie was training the first bunch of nitwits for his restaurant 15, he wasn't mister nice guy either.

[sinikala]

Back to Oliver... and a bit of the old cross country running... pukka mate.

Heh, that was fun... but... can't say much about the food these two guys make, but I must agree with the previous posters... no matter how superior Mr Ramsay might be to J "sir can I publish some more cookbooks" Oliver as a professional cook, the attitude of the latter certainly is IMHO far more inviting when it comes to encouraging people to do their own cooking, explore in the kitchen and actually have fun doing that... after all they're only TV shows, and if I decide to watch a cooking programme I'd rather enjoy it than listen to obscenities and bad manners.

Cooking itself is something I prefer to do myself

I like eating and watching cooking programmes... I do cook, but can't stand it.

Do you get the http://www.bbcfood.com/ channel? Well worth the subscription.

[JohnWatson]

Btw, when Jamie was training the first bunch of nitwits for his restaurant 15, he wasn't mister nice guy either.

True - but you coould understand where he was coming from - and his 'misbehaving' was inside the boundaries.

Ramsay is just a pure lout - and I would never respect him regardless of his 'flavors.'

[sammy]

Do you get the http://www.bbcfood.com/ channel? Well worth the subscription.

Nope, I haven't seen the programmes - but do occasionally use the BBC site for some recipes.

Needless to say I like the eating part too! I could never call myself a 'proper' cook, but I do kind of enjoy messing about in the kitchen.

[jessesuomi]

"He just simply comes over like a pretentious oaf with a very foul mouth. I have 2 of his books - the recipes are fine - comments OK - knowledge OK - but nothing that Julia Child didn't really teach us 30 years ago. He may have ability but someone should lock him up and ask him to send in his stuff by post. Jamie Oliver - if we are looking for 'entertainment' - is a lot more fun. if you want shock value of being crass and rude - just call around to some of the 'asiakaspalvelu's in Finland - though you'll probably have to go to a pub for the 'language' (so-called)."

I have the utmost repsect for Julia Child, but what she did was nothing near what Ramsey has done. One was an entertainer and the other a chef. For what is worth the way he acts in the kitchen is much like the chefs at quite a few top restaurants work. Its the side that the public doesnt see. Ramseys food is much more technical than what Child ever did as well as Oliver. And then comparing Oliver and Ramsey, well one has stars and the other doesnt.

[Hank W.]

I'd still say Jamie Oliver... hrm... "mainstreamed" the tv-cook shows. I mean he does slosh around (not that different from Keith Floyd who probably uses ten pots per show), but I'd say it is his attitude that convinced a lot of people that "cooking is fun". I enjoy watching the shows basically as I get ideas I can then go look what there is in the fridge and improvise. I seldom can follow a recipe and even I do some dishes regularly, I seldom manage to make it twice exactly the same. But new ideas are always welcome - like last weeks "Floyd in India" got me to realize that beetroot might actually be edible in other form than pickled.

Somehow though I've not gotten much out of the Finnish cooking shows. Except the two blokes doing "home cooking for men", they had a few innovative recipes.

[otyikondo]

Question (no, I don't know the answer, am just curious):

Has the recent fad for cooking-shows-on-TV actually made people cook more, or watch cooking-shows-on-TV more?

I only ask because I cook quite a lot and cannot remember ever watching anything but a bunch of people - one of who aspired to be a chef, I believe - floating down the Canal du Midi on a barge and eating and drinking quite a lot. It was on BBC Food, but I only caught it because nothing else was on. My gut-feeling (no pun intended) is that TV-chefs make spectators out of most people.

But doubtless I will be told hundreds of stories now of people who have been inspired to put on an apron by something they saw on the box.

[sammy]

Has the recent fad for cooking-shows-on-TV actually made people cook more, or watch cooking-shows-on-TV more?

Dunno, but I could easily presume so (I wonder if there's been any research into this?)

Be as it may - I don't personally much care whether enthusiastic -at least it seems that his enthusiasm is genuine- blokes like J Oliver are "great cooks" - if shows like that can inspire people, and especially guys, to find that cooking your own food can be 'cool' and fun even if you're not likely to become a Successful and Rich Master Chef - then where's the harm in that?

Well erm actually I do tend to wince at the by-products... J.O. kettles and J.O. pans, no doubt they'll eventually sell J.O. bog rolls...

Can't answer your q., I was bitten by the kitchen bug long before these celebrity shows... maybe both aspects are true? Which vaguely reminds me, Vanamo ja Kolmonen was 'the' cooking-show in my childhood... seems quite out of date by comparison with what's on offer in this day and age... but... so do I.