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Post by karen » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:25 pm

And you don't need Finnish if you don't come here. :lol:



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Post by Hank W. » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:56 pm

Allard88 wrote: scary cheese!
Aurajuusto... not as scary as Roquefort :lol:
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Post by mCowboy » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:59 pm

karen wrote:And you don't need Finnish if you don't come here. :lol:
But everyone speaks English in Finland, so foreigners don't have to learn any Finnish... :twisted:
Get in there...

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Post by Allard88 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:59 pm

karen wrote:And you don't need Finnish if you don't come here. :lol:
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Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:00 pm

Lekker Ding! :P
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Post by Quin » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:10 pm

Allard88 wrote:
Hank W. wrote:Why do you want to come to Finland if you want Dutch cheese? Is not the idea of foreign travel to find out how the foreign people do things? :twisted:
(yes well gouda and edam and whatnot...)
Oh okay! I just couldn't imagine making a Dutch tosti with that scary cheese!

Well, the main reason is.. I can't practice Finnish a lot if I stay here.. :P
The cheese here in finland is absolutely crap if your used to good dutch cheeses. Nothing even comes close to for example a Gouda old or Gouda belegen.

Almost all the cheese here is young and tasts like nothing and ofcourse it is freakingly expensive. Every time i go back to holland i take about 4 kiloos of gouda old back. Havent met a fin yet who doesnt adore the cheese and i now actually have a waiting list of fins who want more. Should rent a truck and start a business

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Post by otyikondo » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:13 pm

Getting errrrmmmmm... serious for a moment, I DO recall that when I first came here I WAS regaled with tales of how like the States this country was supposed to be, and if I remember aright, for some reason KOUVOLA (shudder) was cited as an example.

If anybody could enlighten me or refresh my memory as to why Kouvola should have prompted such an idea, I'd be grateful.

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Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:17 pm

Must agree that most of the cheeses aren't up to much, although if you're on a budget, being able to buy a kilo of the stuff for under 6 euros is reasonably cheap :)

I've found some decent cheeses in Sokos, they are there, just have to hunt a bit.
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Post by mCowboy » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:22 pm

Karhunkoski wrote: just have to hunt a bit.
You mean harvest... :lol:
Get in there...

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:26 pm

otyikondo wrote:as to why Kouvola should have prompted such an idea, I'd be grateful.
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Post by karen » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:26 pm

Allard88 wrote:
karen wrote:And you don't need Finnish if you don't come here. :lol:
People can have other reasons to study a language than to study it because they need it!
Come on over! The more the merrier.

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Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:27 pm

mCowboy wrote:
Karhunkoski wrote: just have to hunt a bit.
You mean harvest... :lol:


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Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:41 pm

otyikondo wrote:as to why Kouvola should have prompted such an idea, I'd be grateful.
Kouvola is an anagram of "u va kloo" ??


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Post by Megstertex » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:47 pm

Many Finns have insisted on this pearl of wisdom to me, and it is possibly the biggest load of hevosenpaska I have ever heard. Who in the *(#&$^@! came up with this? Clearly someone that has never been outside of Eastern Europe.

Let's see, is it the free market that works so well here with price wars and real competition for the best product and service, the mass consumerism, delightful service, hard, competent workers, the wonderful, friendly and internationally minded population, the many globalized companies, the diverse amount of choices and cultures, all the traffic, the 500 plus tv channels, the highly populated and many city centers, the sobriety, the low taxes, the high moral standards and the fact that there is an official religion, which all Finns avidly practice? Is it the special treatment of corporations which prioritizes over not regulating things that harm the environment? The mass individual transportation (=no car, you are screwed) with no trams, or trains, and no busses unless you have a devil may care attitude in life, or could it possibly be the many happy and traditional families with 2-5 children?

Yes, please come to Finland to see for yourself how similar a model it is to the United States. Just watch out for the polar bears at Vantaa airport that migrated here from New York for the winter.
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Post by Jukka Aho » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:16 pm

otyikondo wrote:Getting errrrmmmmm... serious for a moment, I DO recall that when I first came here I WAS regaled with tales of how like the States this country was supposed to be
Usually it goes like this:
  1. Some sort of a new fad surfaces, and is promptly associated with America (sinful “music” such as jazz, listening to Elvis, wearing jeans, chewing bubble gum, Coke, the arrival of the Golden Archs, SUVs, some change in the business culture, some change in legislation, Joulupukki wearing red, etc.)
  2. Someone doesn’t like the change, complains that the old ways were better, makes the point that some unspecified “other European countries” aren’t nearly as susceptible to this kind of silly cultural imitation, and ends up with the fatalistic, disgruntled conclusion: “...but the fact that we had to copy that, too, goes without saying, as Finland is the most American country in Europe.
  3. There is no step 3. (But the step 2 is performed by various different people in various different countries, all over the world, unbeknownst to each other. Expect that they say the name of their own country in place of “Finland”. (And perhaps replace “Europe” with some other locality, too.))
and if I remember aright, for some reason KOUVOLA (shudder) was cited as an example.
Well, that is just... odd.
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