Current Situation, help please :S

Where to buy? Where can I find? How do I? Getting started.
Tiwaz
Posts: 2593
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:21 am

Post by Tiwaz » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:01 pm

superiorinferior wrote:
Tiwaz wrote:
Things like doing your job and not bothering others with unnecessary chatter.
Good boy, Twaz.

Now go get back to work.
On holidays.

But reality is, employers look for certain finnish virtues often not found in other cultures.

Namely, shut up and do work to put it very roughly.
Even here people have told how they would wish for more positive feedback from finnish employers. Finnish empoyers in turn can prefer workers who do not need to be told how good they are.

Silence is golden.

And humility. Employee who keeps holding his/her "tail" up high, which may be good in some cultures, can be bad for work enviroment in Finland where humility and not making fuss of yourself are considered virtues.

Or, as you put it, stare at others. Person avoiding eye contact can often be perceived as dishonest or simply not paying attention.



Sponsor:

Finland Forum Ad-O-Matic
 

User avatar
Jotunheim
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:41 am
Location: North England

Post by Jotunheim » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:00 am

Vantaa looks like a great place to live, from the pictures and things iv'e seen on the internet.. But hah, i could be wrong =/

I'll be coming to Fin;and for the first time next year, either in Summer, and go to the Tuska Festival in Helsinki, or Winter.. And i'll be travelling around Espoo, Vantaa, Helsinki, Sipoo.. You get the idea.

However, 3 Years is my hopefull estimate, i know it could easily stretch to 6+.. But I'm willing to wait as long as it takes.

Oh and yeah, Moonsorrow are amazing =] But every piece of music, sung in Finnish is.. I even like Finnish Pop music :oops:

Haha, and yeah, I'm not the type of person to "Blow my own trumpet" at all, or brag about anything. So that must be positive, right? =]
Last edited by Jotunheim on Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
karen
Posts: 3846
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:17 am
Location: Espoo

Post by karen » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:04 am

I like Finnish pop music, too.

If you're traveling around HEV and Sipoo, you'll be done in a day. :lol:

User avatar
Jotunheim
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:41 am
Location: North England

Post by Jotunheim » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:05 am

karen wrote:I like Finnish pop music, too.

If you're traveling around HEV and Sipoo, you'll be done in a day. :lol:
:lol:

Well maybe so, but I'm sure there are other things to interest me =]

User avatar
Hank W.
The Motorhead
Posts: 29973
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:00 pm
Location: Mushroom Mountain
Contact:

Post by Hank W. » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:47 am

Jotunheim wrote:Vantaa looks like a great place to live, from the pictures and things iv'e seen on the internet..
And i'll be travelling around Espoo, Vantaa, Helsinki, Sipoo.. You get the idea.


Yeah, right... so after going to Bauhaus and buying a bag and Bostik - apart from that what are you planning to do? :lol:
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

User avatar
Hank W.
The Motorhead
Posts: 29973
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:00 pm
Location: Mushroom Mountain
Contact:

Post by Hank W. » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:58 am

rinso wrote: With your profile you're in competition with Finnish high school kids who also have difficulties to find a job.
Actually not, as any highschool kid trying to go on the dole is told "piss off" and get an(y) education. If you're under 25 and without a degree (even in linoleum cosmetology) you'll be put into school. Of course, there are some people that get work right out of school, but its usually a customer service job where you need to speak Finnish - mainly because "the more prole the job the more Finnish you need" because the kids wouldn't be there if they had learnt languages in schools... so a no-speak no-qualification is a no-dice so its wasting good drinking time even answering. :twisted:

But then again if you're a no-speak with some degree in linoleum cosmetology, you won't be much of a hot item in the job market anyhow.

So Jotunheim - scrape enough money up to pay rent and go see whats available at http://www.admissions.fi (and do *not* take any nowheremäki international business and they're less than useless for getting a job). If nothing else you get some degree and the experience of your life.
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

User avatar
superiorinferior
Posts: 2245
Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 3:44 pm
Location: Helsinki

Post by superiorinferior » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:48 am

Jotunheim wrote:
karen wrote:I like Finnish pop music, too.

If you're traveling around HEV and Sipoo, you'll be done in a day. :lol:
:lol:

Well maybe so, but I'm sure there are other things to interest me =]
This is not a personal attack on your tastes and priorities, but have you ever stopped to think why there is so much depressing, heavy, dark and sad music coming from Finland?

User avatar
Hank W.
The Motorhead
Posts: 29973
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:00 pm
Location: Mushroom Mountain
Contact:

Post by Hank W. » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:56 am

superiorinferior wrote:why there is so much depressing, heavy, dark and sad music coming from Finland?
Because we gave up after trying to find our metrosexuality...?

Besides with, a chav with no edumcashun will feel just at home in vantaa with the amis...
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

Tiwaz
Posts: 2593
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:21 am

Post by Tiwaz » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:53 pm

superiorinferior wrote:
Jotunheim wrote:
karen wrote:I like Finnish pop music, too.

If you're traveling around HEV and Sipoo, you'll be done in a day. :lol:
:lol:

Well maybe so, but I'm sure there are other things to interest me =]
This is not a personal attack on your tastes and priorities, but have you ever stopped to think why there is so much depressing, heavy, dark and sad music coming from Finland?

Because that is what fits finnish mentality. Average finn is rarely bubbling fountain of joy who just wants to siiing in the rain.

Such people are actually annoying. I just HATE Arja Koriseva who appears so fake.

User avatar
Jotunheim
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:41 am
Location: North England

Post by Jotunheim » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:48 pm

superiorinferior wrote:
Jotunheim wrote:
karen wrote:I like Finnish pop music, too.

If you're traveling around HEV and Sipoo, you'll be done in a day. :lol:
:lol:

Well maybe so, but I'm sure there are other things to interest me =]
This is not a personal attack on your tastes and priorities, but have you ever stopped to think why there is so much depressing, heavy, dark and sad music coming from Finland?
There's alot of Depressing music, lots of heavy music... But even more Folk music, which i couldn't live without =]

Sad and depressing music comes from everywhere, even England, who actually created that style :P

But i like all kinds of music, so that doesn't bother me at all =]

I just love the way Finland is so... Non Metrosexual/Mainstream, it gives me lots of respect for the country, even the Radio Charts proove this, granted it's not the most underground artists, but In Flames? Amorphis? Not one adult over here has heard of half of them..

Yeah, i can't even walk down the street without getting insulted, purely because of my sligthyl long black hair, and black T-shirt, and (Correct me if im wrong) but from everything iv'e seen, Finnish people are ALOT more tolerant of such stupid things, correct?

User avatar
karen
Posts: 3846
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:17 am
Location: Espoo

Post by karen » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:58 pm

I don't know if they tolerate as much as just don't care. Dh wants to know
what's wrong with a black t-shirt.

User avatar
Jotunheim
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:41 am
Location: North England

Post by Jotunheim » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:50 pm

Yeah, they probably don't even care, which is exactly how i wish England was =/ But sadly, it's not like that..

And nothing's wrong with a Black T-shirt, exactly.. However, to wear a black t-shirt, and have black hair, suggests you're a "goth" and even a "Satanist"??.. So yeah, it's kinda annoying to have it shouted at you, wherever you go..

User avatar
Hank W.
The Motorhead
Posts: 29973
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:00 pm
Location: Mushroom Mountain
Contact:

Post by Hank W. » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:56 pm

Just spit the pigeon's head at them...
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

Tiwaz
Posts: 2593
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:21 am

Post by Tiwaz » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:50 pm

Jotunheim wrote:
superiorinferior wrote:
Jotunheim wrote: :lol:

Well maybe so, but I'm sure there are other things to interest me =]
This is not a personal attack on your tastes and priorities, but have you ever stopped to think why there is so much depressing, heavy, dark and sad music coming from Finland?
There's alot of Depressing music, lots of heavy music... But even more Folk music, which i couldn't live without =]

Sad and depressing music comes from everywhere, even England, who actually created that style :P

But i like all kinds of music, so that doesn't bother me at all =]

I just love the way Finland is so... Non Metrosexual/Mainstream, it gives me lots of respect for the country, even the Radio Charts proove this, granted it's not the most underground artists, but In Flames? Amorphis? Not one adult over here has heard of half of them..

Yeah, i can't even walk down the street without getting insulted, purely because of my sligthyl long black hair, and black T-shirt, and (Correct me if im wrong) but from everything iv'e seen, Finnish people are ALOT more tolerant of such stupid things, correct?
Well, you might actually find considerable amount of people identical to you specially in cities with large number of youths.

Metal scene is rather strong in Finland. Might have something to do with metal being made here in rather large amounts. And rather well... Spent many hours in concert yesterday... Great way to start new year, or end old...

User avatar
Jotunheim
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:41 am
Location: North England

Post by Jotunheim » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:22 pm

Great =] Yeah It's definintley one of the most "Metal" Countries, which is great. But that's not the only reason i want to live there, even though most people think it is...

It's a shame there's no way for me to learn the language any other way, other than self teaching, as i literally think noone else within 100 Miles knows Finnish

(Maybe they do, but nomore than 10 people for sure)

Self teaching is going good though, i find it easy to remember the words after reading them about 3 times.. So hopefully I'm one of those people who doesn't need a tutor at the start =]

Btw, which concert was it =] ?


Post Reply