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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by Rosamunda » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:57 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakewell_tart

It's a shortcrust pastry case onto which you spread raspberry jam which is then covered with a frangipane paste (eggs, butter, sugar and ground almonds)



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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by luckykitty » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:13 pm

Looks good : )

Well, Finland can't compete in the tart division. I've hardly seen any around. The closest i've seen is the Fazer blueberry/berry pie things.
Well my friend from Denmark actually remarked on the lack of bakeries here which is true, so we can't really be compared on a international level to the variety of sweet bakery items found in other countries. By the way, where is there a bakery here in Helsinki? (not the supermarket ones).

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Post by Rosamunda » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:54 pm

But there is a tradition of home baking which is very strong. Even my MIL (who can barely boil an egg) can bake some pretty decent pulla and other buns, cakes etc. There are many Finnish "classics" such as the blueberry tart (traditionally eaten the last week in July which is "ladies'" week - all the Saints' Days are for girls names) and then the lingonberry tart later in the autumn. I guess many of the original recipes came from Sweden or from Russia, but if you take a look in Stockmann's bookshop (or your local library) you should be able to find a good selection of recipe books for baking cakes and pastries.

For bakeries look in the Konditoria (which are often also coffee shops) which are more like "patisseries" than "boulangeries". Like Ekberg on Bulevardi and there is one on Esplanadi (can't remember the name). There are also a couple of bakeries in Hakaniemi market hall and the Wanha Kauppahalli. And in Espoo there is Halme in Kauklahti.

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Post by enk » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:05 pm

luckykitty wrote:By the way, where is there a bakery here in Helsinki? (not the supermarket ones).
What kind of bakery are you looking for? Bread? Cake-like baked goods? They're not usually sold in
the same places.

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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by luckykitty » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:38 am

Yeah, cake/sweet things kind of bakery :o

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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by EP » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:23 pm

Those are the ones that go by the name "konditoria". But also ones called "leipomo" usually do also sweeter stuff, but maybe not "täytekakku" or "leivos".

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Post by sinikala » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:37 pm

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Post by sinikala » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:45 pm

luckykitty wrote:What's a bakewell tart? And how do tarts relate to tortes? They are quite different right?
No, they are exactly the same. Tart is just the English way (via French) of saying torta = round cake. Fillings vary by country.

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torte
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarte_%28cuisine%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tart

only slight difference is that in English we have separate names for types of cake / gateau that others call tarts ... e.g. Sacher-torte = Sacher cake... Schwarzwälde Kiirschtorte = Black Forest gateau. We tend to use the term tart for something sweet with a pie crust.
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Post by Rosamunda » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:49 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torte

To me a tart and a torte are different. And in French une tarte et une tourte are two completely different things and what's more a French tourte is nothing to do with an English torte.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourte_%28plat%29

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Post by luckykitty » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:17 pm

sinikala wrote:
luckykitty wrote:What's a bakewell tart? And how do tarts relate to tortes? They are quite different right?
No, they are exactly the same. Tart is just the English way (via French) of saying torta = round cake. Fillings vary by country.

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torta
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torte
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarte_%28cuisine%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tart

only slight difference is that in English we have separate names for types of cake / gateau that others call tarts ... e.g. Sacher-torte = Sacher cake... Schwarzwälde Kiirschtorte = Black Forest gateau. We tend to use the term tart for something sweet with a pie crust.
I agree with penelope that they are different, at least in English, which is well, what I was referring to :P. I didn't know the german torte = gateau. But anyway, as you can see from the english wiki page for Tart, they look completely different from cakes. It's not that we (and by we, i mean the English) 'tend' to use the term tart to describe a sweet thing with pie crust, its that we actually call it a Tart. In English, I haven't heard anyone call a cake (non-pastry thing), a Tart. I've heard of people being called tarts, but not cakes :P.

A tart looks like a pie with no top, and with sweet pastry instead of savoury, and with sweetish fillings. There are all kinds of tarts, like lemon tarts, bakewell tarts, etc. Maybe I've eaten one here in Finland even :O. Maybe Fazer ones :P

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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by EP » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:26 pm

A tart looks like a pie with no top, and with sweet pastry instead of savoury, and with sweetish fillings.
In Finnish it is piirakka or piiras. The same with or without the top, and no matter what pastry or filling. And those are so easy and quick to make that people usually just make them at home. With all kinds of fillings. Last weekend I made a mushroom piirakka. The sweet ones have fillings made of apple / all kinds of berries / plums / pears and so on. Often topped with whipped cream or vanilla sauce. Try it, and if you don´t have time to make the pastry yourself, all supermarkets have different pastries frozen.

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Post by sinikala » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:36 pm

penelope wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torte

To me a tart and a torte are different. And in French une tarte et une tourte are two completely different things and what's more a French tourte is nothing to do with an English torte.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourte_%28plat%29
There's no such thing as an "English torte". OED lists torte as a German word for an elaborate sweet cake or tart.
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Post by luckykitty » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:50 pm

EP wrote:
A tart looks like a pie with no top, and with sweet pastry instead of savoury, and with sweetish fillings.
In Finnish it is piirakka or piiras. The same with or without the top, and no matter what pastry or filling. And those are so easy and quick to make that people usually just make them at home. With all kinds of fillings. Last weekend I made a mushroom piirakka. The sweet ones have fillings made of apple / all kinds of berries / plums / pears and so on. Often topped with whipped cream or vanilla sauce. Try it, and if you don´t have time to make the pastry yourself, all supermarkets have different pastries frozen.
Oh i love piirakkas of all kinds :D. I think the first word I learnt here was pirirakka ;p
But I miss the English kind of savoury pie, the ones with liquidy filling, like minced meat, steak, etc, with sauce. We have savoury pies here too but different shaped and with solid fillings. I haven't found british savoury pies while travelling europe, excluding in Britain itself (i haven't been to Ireland & scotland, no doubt they have those pies too), but i haven't seen it anywhere in scandinavia. Not even in the freezer :O.


Finlands a nice place to make berry pies tho :D. Like EP said, there is frozen pastry, and also frozen berries at the supermarket, so its easy to make, tho i haven't made any myself :P.

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Post by enk » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:50 pm

There are plenty of konditoria around, the most famous ones that
spring to mind are:

Fazer's at Kluuvikatu 3, Stella (somewhere on Pohjoisesplanadi), Ekberg's
on Bulevardi (9?).

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Re: Laskiainen buns

Post by Rosamunda » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:03 pm

sinikala wrote:
penelope wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torte

To me a tart and a torte are different. And in French une tarte et une tourte are two completely different things and what's more a French tourte is nothing to do with an English torte.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourte_%28plat%29
There's no such thing as an "English torte". OED lists torte as a German word for an elaborate sweet cake or tart.
Agreed, but to me there is still a difference between tart, torte, quiche, pie etc etc etc (they are hyponyms rather than synonyms). We borrow many (trillions of) culinary terms from other languages. Some get into the dictionary and some don't.


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