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Post by snoopx » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:56 pm

I kinda understand from the paper i have received from them: "We are going to use Windows Vista and Office 2007" ... i prefer linux!


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Post by snoopx » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:57 pm

karen wrote:
irnbru wrote:
Glad you like programming. Just reading my diploma:

Programming 1 (Java)
Programming 2 (Java)
Programming 3 (Java)
.NET Programming (C#)
Developing information systems (Java)
Mobile applications (Java)
Advanced internet programming (PHP)
Development of transport layer security protected applications (C)

It's not all programming though loads of design, project management, networking and maths business and language course too. Lots of Finnish of course.

Everyone on my course who made it to the end is working in Finland now. Most are programmers but I know of a tester and a sys admin too.
The new program is very different and centers on Microsoft and website development. I've been trying to think of friends from my class who have quit, but I think most of them who managed to make it through the first two years have graduated. PHP was never available in English, only Finnish.


What year you have graduated ?
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Post by irnbru » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:54 pm

karen wrote:
irnbru wrote:
Glad you like programming. Just reading my diploma:

Programming 1 (Java)
Programming 2 (Java)
Programming 3 (Java)
.NET Programming (C#)
Developing information systems (Java)
Mobile applications (Java)
Advanced internet programming (PHP)
Development of transport layer security protected applications (C)

It's not all programming though loads of design, project management, networking and maths business and language course too. Lots of Finnish of course.

Everyone on my course who made it to the end is working in Finland now. Most are programmers but I know of a tester and a sys admin too.
The new program is very different and centers on Microsoft and website development. I've been trying to think of friends from my class who have quit, but I think most of them who managed to make it through the first two years have graduated. PHP was never available in English, only Finnish.
Yeah sorry I should have mentioned the programming courses in bold I took in English at another Helsinki polytechnic. You can do that too and add them to your helia degree.

Interesting what you are saying about the course now. Sounds like they are ditching the Java for .NET
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Post by Pursuivant » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:21 pm

I dug out my diploma for the heck of it...

Programming (flowcharts)
C
Visual Basic
COBOL
Hypermedia (ummm... intarweb?)
Hypermedia tools (ummm... notepad?)
User interfaces and software design (more VB)
Databases 1
Databases 2
:lol:
OOA, OOD, Prototyping, Specification, Testing, Adaptation, Security, SAP R/3... hey I done a bs. course in "international business" goddamnit
Software export and EU
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Something wicked this way comes."
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Post by raamv » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:09 pm

you had a "course for using Notepad" ?? :shock:
I can understand Hyperstack but not hypermedia!! :wink:
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Post by Pursuivant » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:18 pm

Well back in the day when your bandwidth counted they actually made you count the stacks... now any dildo can "save as"... Only thing that generates anything remotely readable is the NVU project. But we started with notepad...

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<html>
<head>
<meta> name="page" content="nothing"</meta>
<title>page</title>
</head>
<body> content
</body>
</html>
I actually taught classes on this later on... whole secretary classes doing publishing workshops got the idea of why the pictures cannot be in the C:> :twisted:
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Post by raamv » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:13 am

Pursuivant wrote:
I actually taught classes on this later on... whole secretary classes doing publishing workshops got the idea of why the pictures cannot be in the C:> :twisted:

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Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:45 am

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Post by forest_girl » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:13 pm

:D Good one...
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Post by AldenG » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:53 pm

forest_girl wrote::D Good one...
Yes, it perfectly captures the difference between an ivory-tower education and a practical education in a business-oriented environment. In fact, it could be torn from the pages of a Standard Unofficial Operating Procedures manual for many a corporation.
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.
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Post by Oombongo » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:07 pm

I am seriously thinking to start working on C# for projects. I am getting a bit tired of working on PHP
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Post by MagicJ » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:25 pm

Oombongo wrote: I am getting a bit tired of working on PHP
Try PCP instead :D

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Post by raamv » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:10 pm

Oombongo wrote:I am seriously thinking to start working on C# for projects. I am getting a bit tired of working on PHP
as long as you know the difference between C, C#, C++, C-Shell etc.. :wink:
But magicJ might have a better answer for your tiredness..
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Post by AldenG » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:05 pm

Is there much use of Microsoft on servers in Finland?

Can you get through an IT program in Haaga-Helia today without at least some Unix/Linux experience?
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Post by irnbru » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:20 pm

AldenG wrote:Is there much use of Microsoft on servers in Finland?
It's been picking up a bit these past few years with .NET
AldenG wrote:Can you get through an IT program in Haaga-Helia today without at least some Unix/Linux experience?
I reckon you can. You could from 2002 - 2007 anyway. There are Linux courses but they were not compulsory.

Personally I don't think the OS or languages matter, more important is learning the processes. You should be able to pick up anything and start using it as an IT professional (with a bit of a learning curve) if you learned the fundamentals.

If you spend 3 years at Helia designing and coding .NET web applications with SQL server (or whatever they use thesedays. I'm guessing) You should still be able to switch to a Java/Nix/Weblogic/Oracle platform in the workplace. Programming is programming and databases are databases.
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