NO RIGHT FOR UNMARRIED FATHERS IN FINLAND OVER CHILD

[Upphew]

1- Am I missing something here.... Most of you are referring to the Child's mother as a "married person". Where you found out this from the first post by (african)?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=39247&p=341125#p341125

2- Mr. Impregnator (african), Good luck to you I really mean it. If you are truly a good father and want to be with your child, then, you must work very hard for him and not depending on the welfare.

Good fathers chase married tail? M'kay...

[Samer2010]

From his post (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=39247&p=341125#p341125) I read an ugly and despicable statement that he made: "Can i still use the child to apply for residence here in finland?"

Use the child... I really cannot believe that...

But I couldn't agree more with IraniSuomi's entry: "The government must work hard on this matter. I am not proposing the idea to outlaw dating foreigners. But I am saying that if a woman dated riffraff loser then she must face the music by forcing her to pay all the costs to deport him or the cost of his stay here not my taxes money goes to fix her mess.".

[network_engineer]

Perhaps I am just a bit sensitive to the topic of children. At this point, the only remark I feel appropriate is: "Yeah, sure, the poor soul only wants to bond with his child!"

I cannot fathom the poor child's heart ... when he is of age to realise why he was bought into the world, whether or not a residence permit is granted.

[skandagupta]

Another callous aterite fishing for residence permit in the lande of milik and honey.

[Rip]

Yes, you might be right that "african" came to Finland to enjoy the comfort of the Nordic countries and party his head off by spending our taxes money. But who is the responsible for that???

The answer is: The Woman who brought him here or even accepted to be with him.

I mean, You have absolutely NO right at all to lash out at anyone if your women are mentally not stable and they bring and sleep with riffraff.

In case you have not noticed:

A) Men are not considered by law to be wild bests that are unable to control their urges if they come across unveiled woman not guarded by their male adult relatives.
B) Adult women are not considered to be under the guardianship either by their family or the society.

Yes, SHE made a big mistake. It does not change the fact that HE is a leech, and it was HE who was writing here, so it was HIS pots that people were commenting on.

PS. In the future try not to help resurrect (I know, you were not the first, the number one is probably some sort of spammer-to-be) pointlessly one and half year old dead threads.

[notaquitter]

Nobody is talking about the child. What about the child? This guy is the father, whether some people like it or not that is a fact and this will be an issue
in the child's life. What do you idiots who make moronic comments here think about your own origins? Your first assessment: this african guy wants in the country
via sperm donating. Is this true? You bunch of prejudice filled pieces of crap! This child will be an African Finn. What will be of the life of this child? What about the mother? What about her personality? Is she fit to bring up a child? You assume that just because she is finn or because she is the mother? A woman who gets
laid without protection with some guy, becomes pregnant and then denies access to the child? What @#$% assessment have you done to both to come here
and make ignorant comments? No @#$% respect for the most important: THE CHILD. What if the mother is a piss head with some @#$% serious personality disorder? How will this child with a mixed ethnic background fare in a country with widespread racism? How will your children treat this child in school? If they pick up the prejudices of some of you twats, not well for sure!

[Pursuivant]

Your first assessment: this african guy wants in the country
via sperm donating. Is this true? You bunch of prejudice filled pieces of crap!

The only piece of prejudice filled crap here is you:

I am non-EU national and illegal in finland but i have finnish woman whom am now having baby with. My problem is that, this woman is married but have filed for divorce which is still pending. Can i still use the child to apply for residence here in finland?

A woman who gets
laid without protection with some guy, becomes pregnant and then denies access to the child?

Is it she who denies access - or is it the government that denies him the residence permit? If it is her, maybe you are correct in your assesment, or then maybe shes found out something about the father... good in bed, bad for all the rest 23 hours 58 minutes of the day... Who knows, you?

This child will be an African Finn. What will be of the life of this child?

Thats a good question. Future will tell. Hopefully he is not in contact with the likes of you and grows up a proper person instead of whining about racism.

[Upphew]

Nobody is talking about the child. What about the child? This guy is the father, whether some people like it or not that is a fact and this will be an issue in the child's life. What do you idiots who make moronic comments here think about your own origins? Your first assessment: this african guy wants in the country via sperm donating. Is this true? You bunch of prejudice filled pieces of crap! This child will be an African Finn. What will be of the life of this child? What about the mother? What about her personality? Is she fit to bring up a child? You assume that just because she is finn or because she is the mother? A woman who gets laid without protection with some guy, becomes pregnant and then denies access to the child? What @#$% assessment have you done to both to come here and make ignorant comments? No @#$% respect for the most important: THE CHILD. What if the mother is a piss head with some @#$% serious personality disorder? How will this child with a mixed ethnic background fare in a country with widespread racism? How will your children treat this child in school? If they pick up the prejudices of some of you twats, not well for sure!

Hmm, imo it seems that the mother could give access to the child by moving out of Finland. Father has lost his opportunity by breaking the laws. Father's antisocial behaviour exposes child to a higher risk of criminal activity than living with only the mother (1).

The child won't be the first of mixed background, nor the last. Some of them have managed quite well, so better to take some of those to a role model? And make it possible for the child to visit. Unlike the Lola Odusoga's father did.


1. optula

[Rip]

(Was it a spam bot that brought this thread (for the second time) up from its grave?)

This guy is the father, whether some people like it or not that is a fact and this will be an issue in the child's life.

Ideally, a child should have two parents to take care of him/her. Then on the other hand in some of the parents are of such character, than child would be better off without him/her. Mr 'African' did not pain a very pretty picture here.

What do you idiots who make moronic comments here think about your own origins?

My parents were ordinary people who worked until the day they died or became too ill to continue. Their under age children they considered a responsibility, not a meal ticket.
Good enough for me.

Your first assessment: this african guy wants in the country
via sperm donating. Is this true? You bunch of prejudice filled pieces of crap!

I suggest you consult a dictionary for the meaning of 'prejudice'. It does not mean judging people based on their behaviour. Actually it is pretty much the exact opposite
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43257#p370627 (2.5 years ago in this thread)

What about the mother? What about her personality? Is she fit to bring up a child? You assume that just because she is finn or because she is the mother?

For starters she isn't posting on this board. Secondly her legal right to raise to child could be challenged only by based on gross neglect of neglect of the child, not by any other character evaluation that have poor basis to do in the first place. As a consequence unlike you we don't assume much about her, it isn't really relevant for the topic Mr. "African" started.

How will this child with a mixed ethnic background fare

Hopefully well. Unfortunately have a habit of bullying those that stand out of the crowd. At least in the bigger cities the kid wouldn't be unique any more though.

in a country with widespread racism?

At least implicitly includes a claim that racism is somehow extraordinary rampant in Finland. I've seen that claim often, I don't think ever with any proper objective facts to support it.

[Kutittaa]

This thread is a year old. I just thought you all needed reminding..

[Rip]

Two and a half, actually. Lasarus and Jesus combined, resurrected twice.