Why does Finnish literature always contradict itself?

[Evertony]

Gordon Bennett

[Rosamunda]

I have actually 3 sound business ideas but I will just start 1 for now for the sake of my sanity. But how do I get Finnish bank account to accept payments if I don't have residence permit and how can I get residence permit if I can't prove to Poliisi I have own business. Arrrgghh.

Registering business is not enough for registration, you will need to show that the business is enough to feed you and put roof over your head -> established business or business plan (in writing, accepted by... TE-keskus?)

You're chasing your tail Upphew. If I understand correctly, the guy is an EU national married to a Finn (same as me). He just can't be arsed to go to the police station to get a number, that's all. But he is entitled to a KELA number, no problem. And he is entitled to start up a business, whether or not he has a Finnish ID number and whether or not he is resident here or elsewhere in the EU.

I don't get why people have this impression that starting up a company is some HUGE deal that is reserved for Finns. (In fact, Finns who are NOT resident in the EEA are NOT allowed to start a company in Finland.)

http://www.ytj.fi/english/1736/634
You're right - it seems the bilingual version has to be printed and filled in by hand then posted (you don't have to go in person). I guess they send you a bill for the 75e.

http://www.enterprisefinland.fi
Start-up notifications may also be sent by post to The National Board of Patents and Registration - Tax Administration, Business Information System, P.O. Box 2000, 00231 Helsinki.

Just do it. Fill in the form, post it and see what happens. The worst scenario is they ask you for more information.

And don't forget to put your DOB in the Finnish ID box.

BTW: if you want to be a sole/private trader then you can do your "three business ideas" with the one Y-tunnus. I have an ice-cream business, a translation service and I do freelance teaching all with the same business ID. Not a problem. It makes no difference to your income tax as a toiminimi anyway.

[Upphew]

You're chasing your tail Upphew. If I understand correctly, the guy is an EU national married to a Finn (same as me). He just can't be arsed to go to the police station to get a number, that's all. But he is entitled to a KELA number, no problem. And he is entitled to start up a business, whether or not he has a Finnish ID number and whether or not he is resident here or elsewhere in the EU.

True, true... I just thought to bring up that he wants to get his registration by his own merits, the business or three, and I thought it would be nice to remind that the police isn't impressed with y-tunnus alone.

[tiliavain]

I'm 27, i lived in Turku for the last Spring, and I'm not a EU citizen (Brazilian). I had a student visa, only. I registered as a private trader, without registering a name, so it took 0 euros and no seed capital besides my pocket money
I was also expecting an essay on Finnish literature when I read the title of this thread.

My remarks on this are the following:
* The Personal Identity Code: it took me two days to get it, just asked for my passport and address at Magistrati.
I think this is important and useful because the online authentication services is based on your Identity Code. My bank account was open before my Personal Identity Code was issued, and it took me forever to realize this was reason (it seems that your ID is sent back to online services when you request authentication from the bank). Customer number was being informed instead.
The form for self-employed does not require it, but I think is a good thing to have. There was another thing that required it but I can't remember.

* Y-tunnus or business ID
Indeed, I had one in two days also.