Winter tyres: the rules

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:59 pm

meenfreem wrote:and by the way, is it tire or tyre?

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Mook · Post by **Mook** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:36 pm

meenfreem wrote:we at europcar start changing tires next week

ohwell, i'm not footing the bill in case of tickets

and by the way, is it tire or tyre?

Don't hire cars usually have the ones without studs? (The taxi drivers around Hel' do) You can use those all year round.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:02 pm

them's those "kitkats" "kitkarenkaat", like what we central europeans are allowed to have... the taxi drivers use them here too...

Bret

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:19 pm

So you fancy a bit more grip?

(Our next car should have kitkats, so we can take it Germany at Christmas)

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:36 pm

let's put it like this: my tyres need replacing soon anyway - down to 6.5mm after 7000km (!) and they'll probably be nastas - depending on how much driving i need to do. if it's not much then i'll probably get a set of nokian's new hakkapelittaa rsi's, but if it's lots then a set of hakka-4s. my car's too light anyway, so it's fun in the winter...

my wife's 307 was fine in DE on bridgestone LM-22s last winter - fun in the snow

best moment of last winter was driving over a "pass" in the hills; it's windy, small and with some serious curves. february, snowing, and some idiot in an SLK was trying to get up with summer tyres on.... 15km/h on the open section....

Bret

meenfreem · Post by **meenfreem** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:05 am

all cars get spiekd for winter... we don't want any tourists to be flying through finland now do we

i'd prefer the CE witertires... a lot more fun... can't wait for the handbrake turn season to start... errrrr, the snow to come

kakurembo · Post by **kakurembo** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:37 am

PeterF wrote:One of the arts of driving in Finland is to locate such a good/friendly sensible priced houlto paika!

Anyone knows any good/friendly sensible priced huolto paika in the Espoo area?

Thanks

raamv · Post by **raamv** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:07 am

kakurembo wrote:
PeterF wrote:One of the arts of driving in Finland is to locate such a good/friendly sensible priced houlto paika!
Anyone knows any good/friendly sensible priced huolto paika in the Espoo area?

Thanks

No,
But Teboil in Kirkkonummi does it for Euro 20. and mebbe if you are nice enough to give them a lil more, they ll balance it too..
The official link that I had posted for winter and summer tire change is
tiehallinto

karel · Post by **karel** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:18 am

There's a little place behind the Esso gas station in saunalahti. Also for 20 euros.

judderbar · Post by **judderbar** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:12 am

The rubber on my winter tyres is very good but the metal is only about 1mm or so what is the limit on the metal? You can definately feel the metal but it is not sufficient to create that splatter noise from the wires hitting the road.

edit: from wiki, they should be at least 1mm.

I learnt also the outer metal slieve is designed to wear down along with the tread to expose the inner carbide 'wire' so it appears they have quite a bit of life left in them

Upphew · Post by **Upphew** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:26 am

judderbar wrote:The rubber on my winter tyres is very good but the metal is only about 1mm or so what is the limit on the metal? You can definately feel the metal but it is not sufficient to create that splatter noise from the wires hitting the road.

edit: from wiki, they should be at least 1mm.

I learnt also the outer metal slieve is designed to wear down along with the tread to expose the inner carbide 'wire' so it appears they have quite a bit of life left in them

Excessive wear on studs isnt' the problem, usually. The usual problem is that you have lost some studs. You can drive studded tyres that have no studs, but you can't with different amount of studs. The number must be within 25%. That is the legal point. I wouldn't drive with studded tyres that have been plucked.

riku2 · Post by **riku2** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:13 pm

Some people actually get all the studs removed and use the tire all year round since only studded winter tires are banned in the summer (but they are softer and with my car the summer tires are lower profile and the handling is noticeably different than with the winter tires).

I bought my tires online and had them delivered to a local fitter. This was much cheaper than one of the national chains

http://www.rengas-online.com/

judderbar · Post by **judderbar** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:53 pm

Thanks for the help.

With the tyres off the car it is easier to see one of the tyres is at the end of its life with barely 3mm of rubber.

alphamusic · Post by **alphamusic** » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:07 am

3mm is the legal minimum for winter tyres in Finland. In some countries it is four, and I would really consider changing around 5mm. They do not perform well below 4mm. A winter tyre starts with a deeper tread ( I believe mine were close to 12mm when new), so replacing at 4-5mm isn't so different from replacing a summer tyre at around 2mm.

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