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Re: Permit extension

Post by Rip » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:53 pm

kevin2014 wrote: From what I read through your links guys, reg ptnership does not require any witnesses or complicated docs as for a marriage!!
Both need the same documentation, and the legally required witnesses (for both) are supplied by the magistrate office staff if you do not want to being your own.

(basically repeating what has been stated here a few times already)



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Post by Pursuivant » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:34 pm

That infopankki page is a load of bollox. Its exactly the same ins and outs as for a marriage. You need to have the "investigation" done, which requires a paper from all the countries you lived you aren't married/registered there. Then you go to the maistraatti and you can either have the registrar say a long form or a short form. And if you don't have any witnesses they'll find the two (I was once shanghaied to witness a marriage). The only difference in the procedure is its not called a marriage if you're gay.

As for cohabitation, its 2 years straight and 2 years gay both the same.
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Re: Permit extension

Post by kevin2014 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:10 am

onkko wrote:
kevin2014 wrote:We are ready to get married but not yet, probly after her studies *after 2 years*

I assume that registered partnership is not the same as marriage, is it!

From what I read through your links guys, reg ptnership does not require any witnesses or complicated docs as for a marriage!! And both can be a basis for applying a RP.

I ll prefer to do the reg ptenrship but it seems like its possible only for gay couples *same sex* relationship.

Only option for straight couples intending to get married in the future>>> cohabitation option only available and I don not qualify yet!!

Correct me if I m wrong!
Registered partnership is de facto marriage for same sex partners and requirements and responsibilities are similar to marriage, main differences are surname and right to adopt.
At this stage, I think we dont care about surname or right to adopt differences, do we ? Main difference that ppl are actually concerned here, is that a registered partnership between gays do not need to wait any time living together to go forward but a straight couple needs to wait 2 years living together to be eligible for that cohabitation option.. ( I can confirm that as I got the inf from a couple --Finnish and Taiwanese--- yesterday at my school who went through that process)
So a gay couple just meet up on a night at the bar, can go the following day to maistraatti to register their relationship during office hours and the person concerned can apply for a RP BUT for straight couple living together for months already, need to wait for years still to qualify of the same process.
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Re: Permit extension

Post by kevin2014 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:20 am

Pursuivant wrote:That infopankki page is a load of bollox. Its exactly the same ins and outs as for a marriage. You need to have the "investigation" done, which requires a paper from all the countries you lived you aren't married/registered there. Then you go to the maistraatti and you can either have the registrar say a long form or a short form. And if you don't have any witnesses they'll find the two (I was once shanghaied to witness a marriage). The only difference in the procedure is its not called a marriage if you're gay.

As for cohabitation, its 2 years straight and 2 years gay both the same.
Infopakki is actually right as I just confirmed it yesterday at school from a gay couple.

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Post by Beep_Boop » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:50 am

Stop this. Call Migri and ask.
Every case is unique. You can't measure the result of your application based on arbitrary anecdotes online.

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Re: Permit extension

Post by Upphew » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:15 pm

kevin2014 wrote:
onkko wrote:
kevin2014 wrote:We are ready to get married but not yet, probly after her studies *after 2 years*

I assume that registered partnership is not the same as marriage, is it!

From what I read through your links guys, reg ptnership does not require any witnesses or complicated docs as for a marriage!! And both can be a basis for applying a RP.

I ll prefer to do the reg ptenrship but it seems like its possible only for gay couples *same sex* relationship.

Only option for straight couples intending to get married in the future>>> cohabitation option only available and I don not qualify yet!!

Correct me if I m wrong!
Registered partnership is de facto marriage for same sex partners and requirements and responsibilities are similar to marriage, main differences are surname and right to adopt.
At this stage, I think we dont care about surname or right to adopt differences, do we ? Main difference that ppl are actually concerned here, is that a registered partnership between gays do not need to wait any time living together to go forward but a straight couple needs to wait 2 years living together to be eligible for that cohabitation option.. ( I can confirm that as I got the inf from a couple --Finnish and Taiwanese--- yesterday at my school who went through that process)
The gay couple just meet up last night in a bar, can go the following day to maistraatti to register their relationship during office hours and the person concerned can apply for a RP BUT for straight couple living together for months already, need to wait for years still to qualify of the same process.
Nonononono! Only difference between marriage and registered partnership is the surname and adoption part.
http://www.maistraatti.fi/en/Services/marriage/
Where is the 2 years part?
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Re: Permit extension

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:44 pm

kevin2014 wrote:is that a registered partnership between gays do not need to wait any time living together to go forward but a straight couple needs to wait 2 years living together to be eligible for that cohabitation option..
Are you thick? I'll write this slow in case you can not read fast. You go to the maistraatti and get married, exactly the same process.

You apply for RP on grounds on "cohabitation", its 2 years per pair in any combination. Gay or straight.

Got it? Family reasons RP options unless you're already married or in a partnership
a) go in front of the registrar and say "yes"
OR
b) prove 2 years of cohabitation
Any combination of pairs, exactly the same requirements.

Though in your case I'm tempted to suggest you go cut your meat and 2 veg off and go register a lesbian partnership :twisted:
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Re: Permit extension

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:48 pm

kevin2014 wrote: Infopakki is actually right as I just confirmed it yesterday at school from a gay couple.
That they didn't need to provide proof that they are single before hitching up? Its exactly the same process as for getting married.
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