Citizenship Application 2022

[U123ser]

Hi,

I proved my Finnish language skill through a vocational qualification certificate as mentioned at Migri's website: https://migri.fi/en/language-skills

"From 1 January 2018 onwards:
A vocational upper secondary qualification, a further vocational qualification or a specialist vocational qualification that has been achieved through studies in Finnish or Swedish (qualification according to act 531/2017)."

The qualification was in the Finnish language officially and last for about 9 months. English was used by the teacher in our communications and I never asked for using English. Of course, I am more proficient in English than Finnish.

A couple of weeks after my application went to "processing", the case officer has objected to the certificate, stating that I used English towards achieving the qualification certificate, such as communication or verbal discussions. The case officer formed his opinion based on information she received from the institution. It is surprising that I never asked the instructor at the institution to use English with me. He used English in our interactions by himself. Nonetheless, the qualification program is officially in Finnish. At the time of proving my identity, I used the Finnish language (no English at all).

Now, I have been asked to provide different evidence of language skills through the certificates given at the above link. It is funny that I already provided them a qualification certificate according to act 531/2017 as admissible by Migri but they are not accepting it. Any alternative language sufficiency certificate as outlined by MIGRI will take another year or so but I have been asked to provide such evidence within two weeks!

Has anyone come across this situation? Can Migri nullify a certificate that is outlined by them on their website?

I will appreciate it if someone could share his/her experience?

Well , you know , and they know , and the teacher knows ,and now we two know that the the teaching was in english . so I don't think there is much you can do.the word "officially" is silly in this context , as the whole process is at the discrition of the officer if we want to to get legal .
My advice is to take the YKI test , if your language is as good as you proport it to be

Thank you, for your opinion. Did I say that teaching was in English? No, I didn't and teaching wasn't in English either. So, instead of "be ready to pounce on" someone, it is better to understand the situation first. Your advice for YKI test is appreciated though.

[U123ser]

Hi,

I proved my Finnish language skill through a vocational qualification certificate as mentioned at Migri's website: https://migri.fi/en/language-skills

"From 1 January 2018 onwards:
A vocational upper secondary qualification, a further vocational qualification or a specialist vocational qualification that has been achieved through studies in Finnish or Swedish (qualification according to act 531/2017)."

The qualification was in the Finnish language officially and last for about 9 months. English was used by the teacher in our communications and I never asked for using English. Of course, I am more proficient in English than Finnish.

A couple of weeks after my application went to "processing", the case officer has objected to the certificate, stating that I used English towards achieving the qualification certificate, such as communication or verbal discussions. The case officer formed his opinion based on information she received from the institution. It is surprising that I never asked the instructor at the institution to use English with me. He used English in our interactions by himself. Nonetheless, the qualification program is officially in Finnish. At the time of proving my identity, I used the Finnish language (no English at all).

Now, I have been asked to provide different evidence of language skills through the certificates given at the above link. It is funny that I already provided them a qualification certificate according to act 531/2017 as admissible by Migri but they are not accepting it. Any alternative language sufficiency certificate as outlined by MIGRI will take another year or so but I have been asked to provide such evidence within two weeks!

Has anyone come across this situation? Can Migri nullify a certificate that is outlined by them on their website?

I will appreciate it if someone could share his/her experience?

Same process happened to for my wife and she had to take YKI test though she had already vocational certificate from OSAO program in Finnish. Even rejected because the program was officially in finnish language. Migri contacted to OSAO and the teacher told about some extra support to her in english language. She studied almost entire time in finnish language and english language was maybe ten prosent. So ask migri for extra time more than 2 weeks is not enough to take YKI test.

Thank you, for sharing your experience. I will ask for additional time for YKI test; I was concerned whether it would be possible or not.

[U123ser]

Hi,

I proved my Finnish language skill through a vocational qualification certificate as mentioned at Migri's website: https://migri.fi/en/language-skills

"From 1 January 2018 onwards:
A vocational upper secondary qualification, a further vocational qualification or a specialist vocational qualification that has been achieved through studies in Finnish or Swedish (qualification according to act 531/2017)."

The qualification was in the Finnish language officially and last for about 9 months. English was used by the teacher in our communications and I never asked for using English. Of course, I am more proficient in English than Finnish.

A couple of weeks after my application went to "processing", the case officer has objected to the certificate, stating that I used English towards achieving the qualification certificate, such as communication or verbal discussions. The case officer formed his opinion based on information she received from the institution. It is surprising that I never asked the instructor at the institution to use English with me. He used English in our interactions by himself. Nonetheless, the qualification program is officially in Finnish. At the time of proving my identity, I used the Finnish language (no English at all).

Now, I have been asked to provide different evidence of language skills through the certificates given at the above link. It is funny that I already provided them a qualification certificate according to act 531/2017 as admissible by Migri but they are not accepting it. Any alternative language sufficiency certificate as outlined by MIGRI will take another year or so but I have been asked to provide such evidence within two weeks!

Has anyone come across this situation? Can Migri nullify a certificate that is outlined by them on their website?

I will appreciate it if someone could share his/her experience?

Same process happened to for my wife and she had to take YKI test though she had already vocational certificate from OSAO program in Finnish. Even rejected because the program was officially in finnish language. Migri contacted to OSAO and the teacher told about some extra support to her in english language. She studied almost entire time in finnish language and english language was maybe ten prosent. So ask migri for extra time more than 2 weeks is not enough to take YKI test.

in this kind a case only YKI test can help or ammattitutkinto ,perustutkinto ,peruskoulu todistus , If the graduate is Finnish language.For example I have ammattitutkinto it has been checked by Migri 2 times and my teacher told me they called her last year bfore new year ask her my language skills. If I were you I call them to ask more time for YKI test.

Thank you, for sharing your experience. I will contact them and ask for time to appear in YKI test.

[justforfun]

I applied in the middle of November 2021 currently my queue number is around 6400. I have one question regarding the language assessment.
I have provided them with my YKI keksitaso with kirjoittaminen, tekstin ymmartaminen and puheen ymmarttaminen at level 3 and puhuminen below 3 (failed). But I have the required combination (kirjoittaminen and tekstin ymmarttaminen) passed to satisfy the language requirements. I told the interviewer that puhuminen was difficult for me as I don't use finnish at work.
I asked their permission and clarified a few things in English as the immigration-related Finnish is somewhat difficult. Would this have some negative impact on my result? I came here for Masters's with residence permit and currently working in a tech company with P permit.

Hi,
I also applied in the middle of November, 18.11 to be precise. May I asked which day did you visit Migri? Even though we both applied in the middle of November, my queue number is around 56xx at the moment so I wonder what is the reason for this gap.

Thank you.

[Vicerg]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

[boy30062021]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

When did you come to Finland? How long you stay with A and B visa?
One thing that can delay processing is that if you do not meet requirement of staying in Finland, you will not get the decision. A year on B visa is 1/2 of A visa for citizenship. So you should do your own calculation. Many people in the group has applied earlier than they should and I do not know why people worry. Some people needs 4 years while other needs 5 years. Just take those into account. For example I have applied for PR 3 months ago and I meet the requirement only end of April. So still I did not receive decision and even one day left they would not give me. At least that is what I heard from experience

[AidenPou]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

[ktrnc]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

Yes, I applied beginning of Feb 2021 and no action still

[Vicerg]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

When did you come to Finland? How long you stay with A and B visa?
One thing that can delay processing is that if you do not meet requirement of staying in Finland, you will not get the decision. A year on B visa is 1/2 of A visa for citizenship. So you should do your own calculation. Many people in the group has applied earlier than they should and I do not know why people worry. Some people needs 4 years while other needs 5 years. Just take those into account. For example I have applied for PR 3 months ago and I meet the requirement only end of April. So still I did not receive decision and even one day left they would not give me. At least that is what I heard from experience

Who are those who need 4years and those who need 5years please?

[boy30062021]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

When did you come to Finland? How long you stay with A and B visa?
One thing that can delay processing is that if you do not meet requirement of staying in Finland, you will not get the decision. A year on B visa is 1/2 of A visa for citizenship. So you should do your own calculation. Many people in the group has applied earlier than they should and I do not know why people worry. Some people needs 4 years while other needs 5 years. Just take those into account. For example I have applied for PR 3 months ago and I meet the requirement only end of April. So still I did not receive decision and even one day left they would not give me. At least that is what I heard from experience

Who are those who need 4years and those who need 5years please?

It is mentioned here https://migri.fi/en/period-of-residence ... terruption.

At least one of my friend applied in January 2020 and he got even message saying that he will be eligible in August 2021. He got it in that month. Try just to calculate your period of residence. I have seen many people having trouble because of that.

I also heard that some officers somehow do not take into account student period. I am not sure if it true but it can be. Every person in charge of application has his own approach

[Mamu]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

I applied in May 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand. I called Migri yli tarkastaja said they now processing the application 2020. I told them I know some people already got who applied 2021.She said to me you cannot know better then me. I hope to get the decision soon

[Edward35]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

I applied in May 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand. I called Migri yli tarkastaja said they now processing the application 2020. I told them I know some people already got who applied 2021.She said to me you cannot know better then me. I hope to get the decision soon
Maybe some might be important than some of the applicants. Just maybe

[boy30062021]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

I applied in May 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand. I called Migri yli tarkastaja said they now processing the application 2020. I told them I know some people already got who applied 2021.She said to me you cannot know better then me. I hope to get the decision soon

Just take it easy and do not stress yourself about this. I know 2 people who applied in August 2021 and already got theirs. People you are calling they do not have any knowledge for sure what is happening in that citizenship unit. You will waste your time and energy to call them, they would not tell you any concrete answer. What we can do is just wait and wait. If you have valid permit relax you will end up having it one day

[Mamu]

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

I applied in May 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand. I called Migri yli tarkastaja said they now processing the application 2020. I told them I know some people already got who applied 2021.She said to me you cannot know better then me. I hope to get the decision soon

Just take it easy and do not stress yourself about this. I know 2 people who applied in August 2021 and already got theirs. People you are calling they do not have any knowledge for sure what is happening in that citizenship unit. You will waste your time and energy to call them, they would not tell you any concrete answer. What we can do is just wait and wait. If you have valid permit relax you will end up having it one day

I think those who has permanent residence permit are different waiting period time.that means my opinion what ever he or she already settled can be wait until the sun shine I have ever seen where the sun shine in Finland.

[ShadowEn]

Hello,
Is there anyone of you here who submitted his or her application in January or February 2021 and his case hasn’t moved to processing or gotten a decision?

I applied in march 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand and very sad as why people after me got it, mine has not started it yet... but stressing about it don't help either. so, I just try to let go, and focus on my life. It will come hopefully soon.

I applied in May 2021, still in stage 1 (waiting for processing) and I have Permanent Residence. Still don't understand. I called Migri yli tarkastaja said they now processing the application 2020. I told them I know some people already got who applied 2021.She said to me you cannot know better then me. I hope to get the decision soon

It seems like you're in the slower queue, i.e. those who come from countries on the list or have some other reason for their applications to be placed under more scrutiny. I remember your case quite well as we prepared and submitted our applications in a similar time period and if I recall correctly, you've mentioned being convicted of a minor crime in the past and had to serve a probation period? That may be the reason you're in this queue and it is taking time to process your application.

I understand that you're anxious about the processing time of your application, but I think some of the comments you've made on the thread can be misleading to others who don't have a similar background to you but think that the information you've received is applicable to them. Your case is quite unique in comparison to others on this forum and it is quite difficult for us to give you any more or different advice than what you have received from Migri. The only advice I can give you is to not assume that the advice and stories on this forum are always applicable to you and then get upset when Migri tells you otherwise.