The FA is in a Flat panic and trying to dig itself out of a very deep hole.
1: They have been playing cosy housey housey with the prem league clubs, bending drug testing rules.
2: Even though Rio was a twit..the FA should not of mentioned his name in connection with any drug abuse investigation.
3. Until he is proven guilty Rio is innocent and there is no reason for him not to be considered for selection..FA panic action to cover up their other screw ups...
4. However the Turks might cry foul now it is in the open that FA/Prem League been playing games with drug tests.
Here is the latest from the BBC:
Football Association officials are set to meet with senior England players in a bid to thwart the threat of strike action.
The FA “had” denied claims that England's entire squad was ready to boycott Saturday's Euro 2004 qualifier with Turkey following Tuesday's decision to drop Rio Ferdinand from the squad.
But all 24 players in the England squad are reported to have voted in favour of a strike, in a show of support for Ferdinand, putting the FA under pressure to clarify its stance.
Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Gordon Taylor refused to rule out player action - though he did “suggest” Saturday's crucial game will "probably" go ahead
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I dont think they have been bending drug testing laws. Where did you hear that Peter?
They already did according to the FA:Peter Floyd wrote:Football Association officials are set to meet with senior England players in a bid to thwart the threat of strike action.
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Peter Floyd wrote:1: They have been playing cosy housey housey with the prem league clubs, bending drug testing rules.
I dont think they have been bending drug testing laws. Where did you hear that Peter?
Olly.. there seems to be a strong groundswell of opinion... oh bugger.. I'll have to put a few "allegedlys" in here... imagine every second word is "alleged", alright?
... to the effect that the current drug-testing regime is just the sort that will get a lad from South Basingstoke Rovers Reserves busted for smoking a joint on a Saturday night or the goalkeeper of Cleethorpes United Under-19s for that tab of e he had at the rave on Sunday, but that it will NOT hit Premiership players, who can spot the guys with the suitcase coming a mile off.
If you look at the sheer numbers of professional players and the number of tests, you will see that the odds of getting tested aren't that high.
The FA also got altogether too cosy with the PFA over the Shearer violent conduct incident in an earlier World Cup campaign... now it's payback time and the public mood perhaps tipped their hand at this juncture.
It's open season on footballers. Not before time, IMHO.
I had that Trevor Brooking in the back of me cab once. Proper gent he was. Diamond geezer, old school. Wouldn't have seen HIM shagging some slapper on the bonnet of her Clio. Did youse knows he's got a Finnish wife? Phwoa!
... to the effect that the current drug-testing regime is just the sort that will get a lad from South Basingstoke Rovers Reserves busted for smoking a joint on a Saturday night or the goalkeeper of Cleethorpes United Under-19s for that tab of e he had at the rave on Sunday, but that it will NOT hit Premiership players, who can spot the guys with the suitcase coming a mile off.
If you look at the sheer numbers of professional players and the number of tests, you will see that the odds of getting tested aren't that high.
The FA also got altogether too cosy with the PFA over the Shearer violent conduct incident in an earlier World Cup campaign... now it's payback time and the public mood perhaps tipped their hand at this juncture.
It's open season on footballers. Not before time, IMHO.
I had that Trevor Brooking in the back of me cab once. Proper gent he was. Diamond geezer, old school. Wouldn't have seen HIM shagging some slapper on the bonnet of her Clio. Did youse knows he's got a Finnish wife? Phwoa!
"Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available" (Benford's Law of Controversy)
Did not hear it..Read it..BBC repeated the Rules as laid down by FIFA a couple of times then gave up..because the English FA have their own rules...it could well be Now that FIFA/EUFA and a few other countries might well ask how come the FA have own rules.olly wrote:Peter Floyd wrote:1: They have been playing cosy housey housey with the prem league clubs, bending drug testing rules.
I dont think they have been bending drug testing laws. Where did you hear that Peter?
The FA has removed or ignored the implied, but not spelt out phase,.. "Random and without for warning" from the process for "Routine Drug testing!"
As WLM says they pat themselves on the back when they sneak into the changing room at Bognor Regis and they catch a kid who has smoked wacky backy ..but ..Of course they book an appointement with Mr Rio and the likes...Sir Alex might throw a boot at them otherwise!
Olly... read this and you will see where Peter is coming from. If the staid BBC are picking up on this, you can bet there are others lower down the food chain (and closer to the bottom-feeders) who know a lot more...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3170586.stm
The FA is concerned lest one of these things goes off in its face... imagine the press if an England player was shown to be busted AFTER having played in an important international - although he was tested positive before it. There'd be a "Jerome Young does the Sydney Olympics" situation and it would look very ugly...
Whether they'd have dared make a move before now is a moot point, but if I were a suit at the FA I'd stick the knife in now while the chance is there...
Sure there'll be the usual flag-waving wankers who'll say it's "ruining our chances", because they only see things in terms of silverware, but public opinion looks to be in flood-tide against footy excesses right now... you've seen the tone on the unofficial message boards yourself... these guys would normally vote for a syphilitic monkey as long as its ass was painted in club colours, but they are turning hard against the bad eggs in the game...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3170586.stm
The FA is concerned lest one of these things goes off in its face... imagine the press if an England player was shown to be busted AFTER having played in an important international - although he was tested positive before it. There'd be a "Jerome Young does the Sydney Olympics" situation and it would look very ugly...
Whether they'd have dared make a move before now is a moot point, but if I were a suit at the FA I'd stick the knife in now while the chance is there...
Sure there'll be the usual flag-waving wankers who'll say it's "ruining our chances", because they only see things in terms of silverware, but public opinion looks to be in flood-tide against footy excesses right now... you've seen the tone on the unofficial message boards yourself... these guys would normally vote for a syphilitic monkey as long as its ass was painted in club colours, but they are turning hard against the bad eggs in the game...
"Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available" (Benford's Law of Controversy)
Sorry Olle you did not get the Ref job in Turkey..but...
Looks as though the Dane who sent off Beckman has been replaced by the best ..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 166446.stm
Looks as though the Dane who sent off Beckman has been replaced by the best ..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 166446.stm
Another view right or wrong you decide
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3174058.stm
Good point from another forum
'It seems to be an innocent mistake' - as if we would have a chance of knowing ...
Always remember we are dealing with a team whose players are on record as being told to fake injuries and not play for England by their manager (a knight of the realm) for the last decade. This is the level of honesty we are dealing with. Im not jumping to the conclusion that RF is guilty - but you shouldnt jump to the conclusion he is innocent either. These people are masters at deception - while pretending to be innocent fools. I assure you they are not.
Drugs is sport is an incredibly serious matter - I dont care how much you earn - it is something you should take seriously - no athletics star would ever be this flippant over a drugs test. Also look how heavily the FA came down on Robbie Fowler just for a post goal celebration - I didnt see anyone going on strike then. I wish there was a strike and these players were banned from England. And I wish England went on to with the world cup. That for me would be justice.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3174058.stm
Good point from another forum
'It seems to be an innocent mistake' - as if we would have a chance of knowing ...
Always remember we are dealing with a team whose players are on record as being told to fake injuries and not play for England by their manager (a knight of the realm) for the last decade. This is the level of honesty we are dealing with. Im not jumping to the conclusion that RF is guilty - but you shouldnt jump to the conclusion he is innocent either. These people are masters at deception - while pretending to be innocent fools. I assure you they are not.
Drugs is sport is an incredibly serious matter - I dont care how much you earn - it is something you should take seriously - no athletics star would ever be this flippant over a drugs test. Also look how heavily the FA came down on Robbie Fowler just for a post goal celebration - I didnt see anyone going on strike then. I wish there was a strike and these players were banned from England. And I wish England went on to with the world cup. That for me would be justice.
Latest odds on the game
Punters are deserting England ahead of their crunch European Championship qualifier in Turkey on Saturday.
Hills spokesman Graham Sharpe admitted: "Support for England to beat Turkey has virtually dried up since the injury to Michael Owen and the dropping of Rio Ferdinand."
Hills say there has been plenty of money for Turkey to win the game however.
"We have seen two four figure and thirteen three figure bets for Turkey," said Sharpe.
"But we have taken just three bets of twenty five pounds or more for England - one of £25, another of £35 and another of £41. We have also seen little cash for the draw."
Hills make Turkey 7/5 favourites to win the game with England 7/4 and the draw 19/10.
Turkey
5/4 6/5 7/5 5/4 6/5 6/5 5/4 5/4 5/4 5/4 17/12 7/5 5/4 5/4 5/4
Draw
2 21/10 19/10 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 40/17 23/10 2 21/10 11/5
England
21/10 2 7/4 15/8 2 2 15/8 11/5 21/10 2 12/5 23/10 15/8 11/5 2
Punters are deserting England ahead of their crunch European Championship qualifier in Turkey on Saturday.
Hills spokesman Graham Sharpe admitted: "Support for England to beat Turkey has virtually dried up since the injury to Michael Owen and the dropping of Rio Ferdinand."
Hills say there has been plenty of money for Turkey to win the game however.
"We have seen two four figure and thirteen three figure bets for Turkey," said Sharpe.
"But we have taken just three bets of twenty five pounds or more for England - one of £25, another of £35 and another of £41. We have also seen little cash for the draw."
Hills make Turkey 7/5 favourites to win the game with England 7/4 and the draw 19/10.
Turkey
5/4 6/5 7/5 5/4 6/5 6/5 5/4 5/4 5/4 5/4 17/12 7/5 5/4 5/4 5/4
Draw
2 21/10 19/10 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 40/17 23/10 2 21/10 11/5
England
21/10 2 7/4 15/8 2 2 15/8 11/5 21/10 2 12/5 23/10 15/8 11/5 2
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He's welcome to it. Wouldn't fancy that. Thank you very muchPeter Floyd wrote:Sorry Olle you did not get the Ref job in Turkey..but...
Looks as though the Dane who sent off Beckman has been replaced by the best ..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 166446.stm
Penalty in the 94th minute giving England the point they need after Turkey led all game 1-0 would be fun in Istanbul 
Awwwww.. they decided to go after all...
Interesting stuff from the FA about THEY didn't breach the confidentiality aspect of things... so who did? ManUre? If so, why?
Damned shame that Veikkaus probably hadn't set their fixed odds before all this. Apparently people were falling over themselves to get a bit of the action on a Turkey win.
Interesting stuff from the FA about THEY didn't breach the confidentiality aspect of things... so who did? ManUre? If so, why?
Damned shame that Veikkaus probably hadn't set their fixed odds before all this. Apparently people were falling over themselves to get a bit of the action on a Turkey win.
"Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available" (Benford's Law of Controversy)
Straight from the horses mouth
Old Shafted supremo Sir Fergs has confirmed to !"#¤%.com that the reason for his £30m signing Rio Ferdinand's recent piss poor form is that he forgot he is a footballer. "Och aye, whit with all the movin' hame an' the clubbin', not to mention avoidin' the drug tests, the lad just forget he were a fitballer," Sir Fergs told us. "It's nae that av pissed thirty million quid up the wall on a heap !"#¤%, nae not at all."
Meanwhile, Rio has given his own version of events. "After the match the boss came up to me and said there were some guys waiting in the dressing room to take the piss. I just said 'No fooking change there, then.' and went home." He also told !"#¤% "Yes, I used to associate with crazed thugs and dealers, but I left Leeds ages ago."
Old Shafted supremo Sir Fergs has confirmed to !"#¤%.com that the reason for his £30m signing Rio Ferdinand's recent piss poor form is that he forgot he is a footballer. "Och aye, whit with all the movin' hame an' the clubbin', not to mention avoidin' the drug tests, the lad just forget he were a fitballer," Sir Fergs told us. "It's nae that av pissed thirty million quid up the wall on a heap !"#¤%, nae not at all."
Meanwhile, Rio has given his own version of events. "After the match the boss came up to me and said there were some guys waiting in the dressing room to take the piss. I just said 'No fooking change there, then.' and went home." He also told !"#¤% "Yes, I used to associate with crazed thugs and dealers, but I left Leeds ages ago."
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he was named as **** ****** in the evening standard last night, havent seen any else naming him though.
NB even though I just linked to a site with his name. And its all over every Newspaper at the moment, Gonna keep it directly off here for a short time anyway. (a bit paranoid I know, but better safe than sorry) Thanks Olly
NB even though I just linked to a site with his name. And its all over every Newspaper at the moment, Gonna keep it directly off here for a short time anyway. (a bit paranoid I know, but better safe than sorry) Thanks Olly