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judderbar
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by judderbar » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:30 am

I have been out of the country for months. Finnish wife is pregnant and the little one arrives next month. I dont speak Finnish, mother tongue English. What is the employment situation like if i was prepared to do anything at all? What would the wage per hour be? What about rates for various jobs that somebody might be employed to do. I am 53 and able bodied! Use to be in computers but dont want to deal with that again unless it is like absolutely necessary. Just looking for something to have a chance of learning the language and have a bit of money.

Been reading about endless series of layoffs and factory closures. What does it feel like on the ground at the moment?

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by DMC » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:46 am

judderbar wrote:I have been out of the country for months. ... Been reading about endless series of layoffs and factory closures. What does it feel like on the ground at the moment?
My impression is that things are changing, and fast. The number of job ads in the papers has dropped right off, and I hear of larger numbers of applicants for any open position. There is another current thread in which some of the board regulars report their work is busy, but I get the impression that even busy people don't feel confident that they will stay busy.

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by sinikettu » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:06 pm

DMC wrote: My impression is that things are changing, and fast. The number of job ads in the papers has dropped right off, and I hear of larger numbers of applicants for any open position.
Being busy does not always mean "doing profitable work".

Helsingin Sanomat and tabloid Ilta-Sanomat said that a decline in job and housing advertisements has rapidly weakened company finances.
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/01/ ... 89475.html

This does not look good either, Thursday could herald the start of job cuts at Nokia.
According to experts…Their result is expected to be 25% down on last year.
http://www.mobilemonday.net/news/nokia- ... n-thursday
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by Pete » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:08 pm

We have another 'situation' at my workplace right now, however this time it is to do with our employer.
My employer has decided to focus only on the things that are core elements of the business, which is mostly flying people around in planes.
This means that our operation in Finland are no longer important enough, so we will be sold to the highest bidder.
Our station manager jumped ship a few weeks back and the overall manager for Finland was unofficially given the boot more recently.
No one has given any real information about what exactly is going to happen and if everyone will get work with the new owner.
The only info we have received is a general outline of the companies plan for the future, which involves us being 'divested'.
The word on the street is that a cleaning company will be buying our operation and that we will no longer work for an airline at all.
It is also rumoured that the new company won't be handling as many airlines which means that there won't be enough work for everyone.
I am more than a little worried as i am due for holidays at the end of this month and the uncertainty of this all makes it hard to plan anything.
It might be possible that the new company won't allow me to take my holidays (if i was to start a new contract with them) because my hols weren't accumulated with them. And then if i do go on holidays, will i have a job when i come back!?
Losing my ticket benefits is another thing that i'm not happy about, i guess everyone else feels the same way too.
Somehow i can't trust that my current employer will do the right thing by us, after all, they did sell Spanair for 1e so that they could get out of paying compensation to the families of people who died in the recent Spanair crash.
I do feel confident though that i'll be offered work with the new owner, i consider myself to have a good rep at the airport.
However it would be nice if we were officially told something, the whole not knowing thing is driving me nuts! :(

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:43 am

Good Luck Pete - hope it works out ok for you. If you have a good reputation, that should put you in a better position than some others... :D
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by rinso » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:23 am

Uncertain times.
But if you have a full work load every day, you don't need to be to worried about your job. The work stays, whichever name is on the front office.
Different thing tho is when the volume of work decreases overall in the industry.

And I don't think your new employer can skip all your holiday rights in case of a take over. The unions would go bezirk.

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by Pete » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:03 am

rinso wrote:And I don't think your new employer can skip all your holiday rights in case of a take over. The unions would go bezirk.
I sure hope not, we are meant to be going to Australia for 4 or 5 weeks at the end of this month.
I'll be back at work again today so maybe there will be more 'news' available...

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by sinikettu » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:27 am

The "work" situation is not improving...
It never rains but it pours..
Yesterday Nokia Seimens booted 550 at Espoo.
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/02/ ... 38590.html

Today Nokia Mobile Phones boot 320 at Jyväskylä (closing the facility), and put approx 500 on forced vacation at Salo.
(sorry not yet in English)
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/talous_ja_pol ... 39439.html

Edit now in English:
http://finland.fi/stt/showarticle.asp?i ... p=Business
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by raamv » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:40 pm

The work situation is many places are pretty grim..with all the unemployment news and their own organization news filtering in..
YT is now a common word and the fear of a job loss even strikes on harder..
Best thing is to focus on the work and do the best that you can..
I get pinged from outside with many applications..
Some are pretty good..unfortunately I am unable to lend a helping hand at this point in time..
SO Keep your Hopes Really really High...that you will ride through the storm..
Keep your expectations low..and do the best that you can..
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by finlandforumuser » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:00 pm

Work situation is as usual, this is not US and no sub-prime crash. There is job for good specialits with experience, education (not necessary language) and skills. No job for others. Simple advise for job seekers - build yourselves.

Enjoy.

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by Pete » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:00 am

Well that was rather random ffuser, what brought that on?
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by judderbar » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:01 am

Where would be the best place to go to get information on what skill sets are in demand and which are not?

Are people now losing work mainly finding work elsewhere?

I suppose my interest is personal and from an economy/investment point of view also.

I have been self employed/taking it easy for a while and think i would be better off sitting out the next few years with income from a job also.

I was hoping to find a house to renovate as a pseudo business in Finland......but the numbers dont work for me. I need a dump at a dump price in good location. Maybe that will happen but it could take years yet........

Anybody able to give a job overview for Finland?

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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by mrjimsfc » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:13 am

Well, if you go here the jobs for the last 24 hours are listed by category just like you asked. There are 8 pages (or more) of them. Enjoy!
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Re: Work 'situation'

Post by judderbar » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:58 am

Thanks

I selected from this jobs site and then from monster jobs site a list of categories from industry to driving to technical etc etc.

Two vacancies are available if i know java

I suppose i now know what i have to do if i cannot create my own work renovating houses.


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