Cambridge girl looking for advice on moving to Finland

[geek5354]

Something positive, eh? Well, on the economy front, Finland avoids technical recession even as economy contracts.

Finland avoided a recession after revised data showed the economy grew in the third quarter of last year before sinking into decline three months later.

Not trying to spoil your fantasy but things aren't rosy at the moment in Finland like many other countries but could be worse.

[Pursuivant]

Choose clean nature.Choose safe environment.Choose free education.
Choose a f*n big country with a f*n small population,
Choose taxes the size of a yearly income elsewhere,
old cars, half a year of darkness and a meter of snow.
Choose no sleep, high alcohol content and no mental therapy.
Choose fixed union salaries. Choose a rented shoebox for a family of five.
Choose no friends. Choose black jeans and matching combat boots.
Choose an axe for your cottage in a range of f*n forged steel blades.
Choose a Finnish partner and wondering why the f* you’re logged on Finland Forum on a Sunday morning.
Choose sitting in a classroom listening at mind-numbing, spirit-crushing Finnish grammar,
craving f* foreign food into your mouth.
Choose leaving at the end of it all, selling your last piece of furniture at a loss to some miserable newcomer,
nothing more than an embarrassment to the rose-tinted-glasses-wearing,
f*d up losers spawned by Ryanair to get over to their Nordic Welfare Paradise.
Choose your future.
Choose Finland.

[Pursuivant]

I expected it to be cold with short days

Well the axle tilts, so its cold with long days in the summer.

I thought that at least the summers must be nice.

Theres not as many mosquitoes in the winter.

Come on guys give me something positive to think of for the weekend!

I just submitted for voluntray redundancy and I have two bottles of vodka in the freezer...

Can anyone give me something that is great about your country?

Thats what all the propaganda is for... see now if you come believing in the propaganda http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/t ... .html?_r=0 and face reality, you'll end up a whining miserable git who writes here and moans.
If you brace yourself expecting the reality http://www.nullwave.net/finlandinthesedays.html you'll only have happy surprises and won't be half as annoying.

[cors187]

A lot of people on here paint a really bleak picture of your country. Surely it can’t be that bad. I expected it to be cold with short days but when Flossy started talking about strawberry picking I thought that at least the summers must be nice. My friend Hana made it sound so magical and I guess I was looking at it through rose tinted spectacles because of that but a lot of the posts on here are just mentioning the negatives. Come on guys give me something positive to think of for the weekend! Can anyone give me something that is great about your country?

I can
4 months of the year its awesome (very long days in the middle, warm enough , sometimes its really nice, as in "i could not expect to be anywhere better".
Like adrian mentioned 4 months cold, not really that bad,this winter wasnt anything bad.

If you dont need money and your a tourist, wonderful .I even want to fly my mum over for a summer in Lapland.

If you run out of money though ,hmmmm, if you need work, double hmmmm

I can see how the picture can be painted lovely. I think it is for the thousands and thousands of Uni students somewhere between adolescence and mortgage.
The most positive thing about finland ,hmmm , i guess it has to be the squirrels !

[onkko]

Something positive, well i give something.

Today was great day!

After months of dim light and darkness today i woke up because of sunlight!
Crisp -10 and light! Light so "snow blindness" was real consern. I can feel that summer is coming and i do enjoy it but i also enjoy this time of year when there is light, huge amounts of light!
Walked around looking frozen world and enjoying sunshine for few hours, i cant imagine what could be better after long and dark winter.
Saw a moose, yelling WAZAAP HIRVI PERKELE! caused it to run away Also squirrels werent so friendly because i didnt have any nuts, they didnt mostly mind me because i didnt yell them or didnt have anything to them i think. They didnt look friendly tho :/ (why that creepy human talks to us? give nuts or fck off!)

I do understand from where "spring in chest" comes, i have it now like in last 20 years

But as others said, get a job or dont come

[tuulen]

A lot of people on here paint a really bleak picture of your country. Surely it can’t be that bad.

They are just being honest with you. Like anywhere, Finland has its upsides and its downsides, but they are giving you a gentle reminder that downsides do exist.

And Pursuivant really is a decent fellow, once you have pried the axe out of his hands.

[AnnikaL]

A lot of people on here paint a really bleak picture of your country. Surely it can’t be that bad. I expected it to be cold with short days but when Flossy started talking about strawberry picking I thought that at least the summers must be nice. My friend Hana made it sound so magical and I guess I was looking at it through rose tinted spectacles because of that but a lot of the posts on here are just mentioning the negatives. Come on guys give me something positive to think of for the weekend! Can anyone give me something that is great about your country?

There are a million different experiences that could be had in Finland, and the one a person has depends on their background, their mentality etc. My family who have been born and brought up and live very nice lives there think it's a great place. I think it's lovely in any season, for an extended visit, and have never failed to enjoy my time there. But even with a Finnish background, I personally think *I* would find it hard to move there to live, but that's probably for very different reasons than other people would find it hard. Everyone is different and many areas of Finland are different too. Well, they sort of look the same But they aren't really.

Many people on this forum are doing something that is hard in any country - moving to it and trying to build a life while not knowing the language and being outside the cultural comfort zone, the fact that it's difficult doesn't really have all that much to do with 'Finland'. And yes, realistically, it is going to be hard (though not impossible) to get work I would expect.

[tuulen]

@ stroopwaffle

There are a million different experiences that could be had in Finland ...

AnnikaL could also be of help to you, British + Finnish.

[browndude]

Let me put it this way. Some immigrants will love Finland and some immigrants hate it. The typical westerner who moves here typically whines a lot more. If it is your first time living in a foreign country then it will be very, very tough.

[cors187]

The typical westerner who moves here typically whines a lot more..

i think the typical westerner does not "complain", there attitude is more like "rebuke".

They rebuke the general consensus because hearing about how good things are compared to other places is not correct,because they have lived their lives in better/less complicated conditions.When an immigrant from a higher quality of life country comes here and becomes an "under subject",they see the hypocrisy really fast.
Its like inviting 2 friends over to help you build your house, 1 friend built his own house according to legislation detailed or more detailed than your house . The other friend built a mud and stick house,of course the house builder friend is going to rebuke(not whine) you when and if your dodgy.

[Rick1]

@cors187 With all respect, ever thought about a career in politics?: talk a lot but nobody understands where it is about.

[Oho]

Let me put it this way. Some immigrants will love Finland and some immigrants hate it. The typical westerner who moves here typically whines a lot more. If it is your first time living in a foreign country then it will be very, very tough.

Silly me, I did not realize Somalia and Middle-East are west.

[browndude]

Let me put it this way. Some immigrants will love Finland and some immigrants hate it. The typical westerner who moves here typically whines a lot more. If it is your first time living in a foreign country then it will be very, very tough.

Silly me, I did not realize Somalia and Middle-East are west.

Now, now, no need to get too sensitive. I was just pointing out my general impression. My western friends tend to complain a little more than my eastern friends. Of course I also know some pretty content American immigrants as well as some pretty whiny Chinese immigrants. I do not know too many Somalis or middle easterners but I suspect that they whine because they are muslims and they are not able to adapt to the culture here.

[Oho]

Now, now, no need to get too sensitive.

Oh there's no end to me whining but I am not an immigrant, I live about 10 miles from the place I was born in. That said, the immigrants I've mostly had the pleasure to make acquittance off, for all intents and purposes, never whine, not even when plastered. But then again I am an engineer and it seems engineers and people in natural sciences have just about the least trouble adjusting to Finland, go figure.

[cors187]

@cors187 With all respect, ever thought about a career in politics?: talk a lot but nobody understands where it is about.

ummm
Another example then
What can i do though , maybe some animals in the example.
Did anyone else understand how "rebuke" relays an authoritative stance , where as "whining/complaining" does not relay any fact of authoritative stance?
Anybody? with animals preferably?

Maybe the OP can answer this question?